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New York Yankees Thread (THIS THING OF OURS) (pg. 11)
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| verndogs |
| quote: | Originally posted by chanman7483
Bottom line is that you look at stats as sucking and not fun.. while I get into stats b/c I have a passion for the game of baseball itself and stats enhances the game to me, I get a better understanding of it and whats going on. I use stats to formulate my opinions on players b/c I don't get to see baseball outside of the Yanks/Mets.
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stats is pretty much what makes fantasy baseball fun. |
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| chanman7483 |
So you're against preparation?? No matter that guy smacked you up
The rationale for OBP at the bottom can be overcome by slg% of the 3,4,5 hitters. No need to move the runners over w/ bunts/groundouts if the 3,4,5's can hit doubles/hrs to score them. |
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| chanman7483 |
| BTW, there's talk of AROD opting out after this season. I for one don't want him to go.. and if he does, I'm sure everyone is going to prefer Eric Duncan or whoever else we stick in there to the best 3b in the history of the yankees, and one of the top ball players of all time. |
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| kid nyce |
A)vern - 'FANTASY' lol need I say more lol
B)I'm not against preparation, I'm against 'rationale' - lol wtf is that, there is no time to rationale when you're standing on the mound about to throw a pitch. You know what you threw him last time and you work the batter like any other pitcher would. And why would I need to rationalize my batting order? I know who hits what, who's on base, and who can run fast. That's all I need to know, I don't need to know peoples OBP, I can generally know by watching them play, the situations they are in and how they respond even though on paper it might say one thing, it's another thing when you see a batter hit to the right side and make an out but move a runner over to third. Same thing goes for a lefty pulling an outside pitch to move a runner over. |
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| verndogs |
| quote: | Originally posted by kid nyce
A)vern - 'FANTASY' lol need I say more lol
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yes you do actually...don't know why you're loling over that :) |
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| kid nyce |
i have a different perspective on the game, i can't see the game in stats like most of you guys do even though the bench considers it an attribute to the game. I agree it's part of the game and it helps you out, but as a player of the game, following stats is not what's important to the game. the mechanics of the game is what is important, knowing before it happens and what you should do in certain situations, thats the game of baseball.
I mean a fantasy league is that, it follows stats and players of the game in your own pseudo game/league of points and scores. I don't see baseball like that i don't care for individual players and how they do, I care for the team because when you play for a team you don't care about individual players across the league, you only care about your team.
I don't know if I explain myself properly, just that from the player perspective, stats across players across the league isn't nearly important as knowing that my 5 hole hitter is going to back me up with a single after i slide into second with a double, so i take an extra step on my lead to make it easier to score on a seeing eye single. It's a KNOWING game, not a stat and analyze game to me. |
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| Shamez214 |
| quote: | Originally posted by chanman7483
We're all Yankee fans here, so lets get back to the subject at hand..
and no, I don't see the Yanks giving up on Cano... and yes, he is not as good as we all think... I could throw out stats, but I'll skip that.
for now :) |
We are? :clown:
On topic of Cano, I also think Wang is not nearly as good as he is perceived to be. If I were Cashman, I'd definitely be floating both of their names out there to see what I could get in return. |
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| kid nyce |
^^i thought the yankees had that bad reputation of buying all-star players to flex their deep pockets lol - so these two players don't earn those multi-bajillion dollar payrolls so they should be floated out to pick up someone better...
it seems like whatever the yankees do, there is some sort of criticism surrounding them...they go after a good player - they buy talent - they house decent players like wang and cano - ahh they can get better for those mediocre players...
which is it lol? |
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by kid nyce
you ing stat whores - this over analysis simply kills the enjoyment of the game
stop deliberating over on base percentages, we aren't making the decisions on who should go where because frankly when you get that deep into the stats and rosters you lose focus of the game...it's a game you're supposed to have fun not analyze every pitcher matchup or batting order
cheering for my team thats all i'll do...
go pinstripes |
no way, stats are what make baseball fun. Comparing stats like this is an almost uniquely baseball thing. Sure other sports have stats but nothing like the creations for baseball: OPS, OBP, SLG, etc... |
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| kid nyce |
^i prefer baseball fun to be digging around third on a line drive single trying to score the winning run from second.
thats fun to me...or to pitch to the 3hole batter with 2 down in the bottom of the 9th with men on
or to single and double to death a team while the team is in full rally...
lol i got a different perception about baseball - stats aren't fun to me i guess...even though im an analyst as my career LOL... |
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by kid nyce
B)I know who hits what, who's on base, and who can run fast. That's all I need to know, I don't need to know peoples OBP, I can generally know by watching them play, the situations they are in and how they respond even though on paper it might say one thing, it's another thing when you see a batter hit to the right side and make an out but move a runner over to third. Same thing goes for a lefty pulling an outside pitch to move a runner over. |
You know all of this stuff because in your head you intuitively take stats down. If you didn't make internal notations (which stats are an external notation of) you wouldn't know that info. So you actually do reference stats when you play the game.
by saying, "i know this stuff," its because you are keeping track of how many times someone has a certain result against you. That is the essence of taking down stats.
| quote: | Originally posted by kid nyce
^i prefer baseball fun to be digging around third on a line drive single trying to score the winning run from second.
thats fun to me...or to pitch to the 3hole batter with 2 down in the bottom of the 9th with men on
or to single and double to death a team while the team is in full rally...
lol i got a different perception about baseball - stats aren't fun to me i guess...even though im an analyst as my career LOL... |
point well taken. Perhaps i spoke wrongly. Baseball is MORE fun because of stats. Its really the only game where anyone cares about it in the offseason. Part of the reason is because stats drive the offseason free agent market. People argue about who a team should acquire based on stats. I know i care more about the baseball offseason that any other sport(except snowboarding). Mostly because i like to see who fits on what team based on stats. |
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| steven-neil |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj tek
dont assume man, i supported yankees for almost 20years... winfield, henderson, mattingly, barfield, tommy john, them days... when they sucked... i was heartbroken when right after mattingly retired yankees won the world series.... i remember watching the game when deion sanders hit an inside the park home run.. when steve sax joined the team, espinoza, kevin maas...lol yeah mets had a great season and you can think that i jumped the bandwagon, BUT i enjoy their games more and i feel their hustle more so than yankees. i go with my heart man, and i want to support the mets. dont assume me, you dont even know me... and about randy johnson im disgusted that yanks even made the choice to bring him here. wanna talk about Irabu ? |
WHO THE IS IRABU??????????? |
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