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New York Yankees Thread (THIS THING OF OURS) (pg. 109)
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| southbound24 |
If the payoffs began today my lineup would be
cf melky
ss jeter
lf godzilla
3ba-rod
c hip hip jorge
2b cano
rf booby
ib any phillps
dh duncan
Juice and Jesus would be on the bench |
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| Shamez214 |
| quote: | Originally posted by jerZ07002
While that's amazing, it is something that can happen in one day, so to me it's not as impressive.
The 59 scoreless innings streak is just as impressive as a hit streak. It's consistency over a long period. That's over a month without letting up a run, damn impressive. |
Now... don't get me wrong. I'm not taking anything away from Joe Dimaggio and what he did. He batted .408 during the streak, so that's pretty damn good. But...
Think about 59 scoreless innings in a row. In essence, Orel Hershisher, during that streak, never gave up a double with a runner on first. He never gave up a single with a runner on second. He never gave up a hit with a runner on third. And he never gave up a deep fly ball or a slow roller in the infield with a runner on third with less than two outs.
Of course, that may not be the case. Maybe there were slow runners out there. But, basically, he didn't do many of those things often.
To get a hit, there are many things that could happen. Poor defenders not reaching a ball in time or maybe just a well-placed pop up behind first. You can, theoretically, go 1 - 5 every game for 57 games and you'd have the new record. To get 59 scoreless innings in a row, you have to be totally on top of your game during that span. No bad pitches, cause there were obviously no homeruns hit, and not many hits given up when runners are on base. |
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| Vlad |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shamez214
To get a hit, there are many things that could happen. Poor defenders not reaching a ball in time or maybe just a well-placed pop up behind first. You can, theoretically, go 1 - 5 every game for 57 games and you'd have the new record. To get 59 scoreless innings in a row, you have to be totally on top of your game during that span. No bad pitches, cause there were obviously no homeruns hit, and not many hits given up when runners are on base. |
59 innings is pretty crazy... figuring he averaged 7IP during that stretch... he would have gone 8+ games in a row without letting up a run. Thats insane. On the flip side, hitting in 56 consecutive games just looks so unattainable since no one has even gotten to the 40 hits mark since the record was set.
I think Orel's record will be harder to break because the league is just overflowing with hitters. |
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shamez214
Now... don't get me wrong. I'm not taking anything away from Joe Dimaggio and what he did. He batted .408 during the streak, so that's pretty damn good. But...
Think about 59 scoreless innings in a row. In essence, Orel Hershisher, during that streak, never gave up a double with a runner on first. He never gave up a single with a runner on second. He never gave up a hit with a runner on third. And he never gave up a deep fly ball or a slow roller in the infield with a runner on third with less than two outs.
Of course, that may not be the case. Maybe there were slow runners out there. But, basically, he didn't do many of those things often.
To get a hit, there are many things that could happen. Poor defenders not reaching a ball in time or maybe just a well-placed pop up behind first. You can, theoretically, go 1 - 5 every game for 57 games and you'd have the new record. To get 59 scoreless innings in a row, you have to be totally on top of your game during that span. No bad pitches, cause there were obviously no homeruns hit, and not many hits given up when runners are on base. |
you make a strong argument, and i wouldn't disagree with anything you said. However, i personally believe that getting a hit everyday for two months (day in and day out) is just as impressive. |
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| verndogs |
| quote: | Originally posted by jerZ07002
you make a strong argument, and i wouldn't disagree with anything you said. However, i personally believe that getting a hit everyday for two months (day in and day out) is just as impressive. |
yeah..it's just one of those great bar room debates that will never end
i personally think they're both equally impressive |
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| verndogs |
So I was in Tokyo while A-Rod hit 500 and Bonds tied Aaron.
Guess which event made front pages of the Japanese papers?
A-Rod's 500th homer :thepirate |
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| Shamez214 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vlad
59 innings is pretty crazy... figuring he averaged 7IP during that stretch... he would have gone 8+ games in a row without letting up a run. Thats insane. On the flip side, hitting in 56 consecutive games just looks so unattainable since no one has even gotten to the 40 hits mark since the record was set. |
Pete Rose had 44 games. |
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| Shamez214 |
| quote: | Originally posted by jerZ07002
you make a strong argument, and i wouldn't disagree with anything you said. However, i personally believe that getting a hit everyday for two months (day in and day out) is just as impressive. |
Yeah, I never used to pay much mind to the scoreless inning streak. But yesterday, completely out of the blue, I started to think about it. And all that stuff came in my mind and I realized just how crazy it is to do that. |
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| Vlad |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shamez214
Pete Rose had 44 games. |
Ok, correction... one guy... and hes probably the greatest hitter ever. |
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| Shamez214 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vlad
Ok, correction... one guy... and hes probably the greatest hitter ever. |
Hmmm... I don't even think he's close to being the greatest. But, we'll agree to disagree here. |
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| verndogs |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shamez214
Hmmm... I don't even think he's close to being the greatest. But, we'll agree to disagree here. |
will this cause the return of your WTFTFTFTFTFTFTF mode? |
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| djstopngo |
| quote: | Originally posted by verndogs
yeah..it's just one of those great bar room debates that will never end
i personally think they're both equally impressive |
I agree. They both stand alone as by far the most dominant streak in terms of hitting and pitching.
I still think Ted Williams hitting above .400 for an entire season is more impressive, but that's just me. |
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