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It is just a ing house cat:p in some countries they use them for skeet shooting..plenty more to spare. Vlad BTW, I do not own that camera... it is a $7,000 camera... Just wanted to make those that are into photography envious. :p Anyway... gehzumteufel, If you want to get into photography... get an XSI, with a basic lens... get one with IS if you have extra cash to dish out... and enjoy yourself. My only suggestion is, when you get the swing of it, dont get one lens that does both macro and telephoto shots, youll get more out of the picture if you get separates. It'll cost you more, but it will be worth it. Scottaculous quote: Originally posted by Vlad BTW, I do not own that camera... it is a $7,000 camera... Just wanted to make those that are into photography envious. :p Envious of something you don't have? By that logic, Megan Fox is my girlfriend. You envious yet? That's what I thought. Vlad quote: Originally posted by Scottaculous Envious of something you don't have? By that logic, Megan Fox is my girlfriend. You envious yet? That's what I thought. Yes, but I touched, held and took pictures with the camera... did you feel, hug and hookup with her? And I can do it with any camera I want... which means I could play with a Jessica Alba, Scarlett Johansson and a Megan Fox all at the same time. gehzumteufel quote: Originally posted by Vlad BTW, I do not own that camera... it is a $7,000 camera... Just wanted to make those that are into photography envious. :p Anyway... gehzumteufel, If you want to get into photography... get an XSI, with a basic lens... get one with IS if you have extra cash to dish out... and enjoy yourself. My only suggestion is, when you get the swing of it, dont get one lens that does both macro and telephoto shots, youll get more out of the picture if you get separates. It'll cost you more, but it will be worth it. Oh yeah I am aware of that. I was thinking of getting a second hand XT or XTI with a lens but we will see when I am in a better position. I know I need to get a PnS before I go to MTL. SD870IS is what I will be getting. Vlad quote: Originally posted by gehzumteufel Oh yeah I am aware of that. I was thinking of getting a second hand XT or XTI with a lens but we will see when I am in a better position. I know I need to get a PnS before I go to MTL. SD870IS is what I will be getting. Good choice, make sure you pick one up before they get discontinued though, cause Canon already put out the new line of PnS. gehzumteufel quote: Originally posted by Vlad Good choice, make sure you pick one up before they get discontinued though, cause Canon already put out the new line of PnS. They already put out the 870 replacement? Or are they going to do like last time (the 800) and wait a partial cycle to replace it? Vlad I think its cycling. Canon has a wierd pattern of releasing new stuff. We did just get in the SD990, which looks like a pretty cool camera. Vlad BTW, the 50D is pretty sweet, cant wait to get my hands on the 7D, Im curious to see how it performs against the D700. Sushipunk quote: Originally posted by squirrelly lololol Scott :stongue: No I mean, ok - so you buy some huge expensive camera - take 250 pictures, and end up with 5 "good" ones, and then call yourself a photographer. WTF, where's the talent? That's just luck. Be trained on a FILM camera, when film was expensive, and be told you have ONE roll, and out of 36 shots, 35 have to be PERFECT, and you'll know what it's like. I don't need to take 250 pictures to get a few good ones. I was trained to take the correct shot, on the first try, every time. And I can develop my own , too. so yea. //rant ediiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit (this was not to rose fyi) Try out bird photography some time :) See how many 'perfect' shots you end up with from a roll of film :p gehzumteufel quote: Originally posted by Vlad I think its cycling. Canon has a wierd pattern of releasing new stuff. We did just get in the SD990, which looks like a pretty cool camera. Well I see the sd880 but is it a real replacement for the sd870? When they released the 850 it was NOT a replacement for the 800 as it did not have the wide-angle lens and something else (I forget what. that was a long time ago! lol). So yeah, I am doing the research. //edit: Just looked at the specs of the SD880IS and it apparently IS a real replacement for it! w00t Dervish For me it's all about the G33-k, used to love N3-rd too, but always have known that like the PU55-y is for n00bs l337 yo. 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