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| Sushipunk |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
damn.... I wish I were more educated on the details of photography. So interesting. Are you a Canon mark only or do you like Nikon or something else as much? |
Well, I'm kind of stuck with Canon now lol. If I change brands, I'd have to buy all new lenses, and fuuuuuuck that wouldn't be cheap to do. Nikon gear is great though, and in the last year or so Sony has come to the table with some damn nice products too. Sony have the IS built into their cameras, as opposed to the lenses having it (though, their lenses aren't any cheaper than Canon/Nikon IS lenses, huh :rolleyes: )
If you're interested in learning, grab yourself one of the entry level DSLR cameras (like a 400D or something), or even one of the higher end point-and-shoot models that have most of the manual settings to mess around with. It's really good fun when you get into it :) Everywhere you go, you start looking around, sizing everything up for a photo :p |
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| Zild |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
haha yeah I know those aren't yours... but when I think of photo savants I think of you, which is why I asked. I just looked it up.... how do you get those photos with an 8.2 megapixel camera, especially from distance? It may sound like a stupid question, but I know very little about cameras. |
Megapixels don't mean much when you are using a digital SLR. My Nikon D70 is 6 megapixels, but the CCDs are much better than any point and shoot. On top of that Nikon's optics are really good, so a top of the line 10mp point and shoot isn't going to compare. Megapixels are a marketing gimmick.
When it comes to brand... Nikon vs. Canon. Just pick one because they're both great. I'm stuck with Nikon because I started out on an old Nikon FE 35mm film SLR, and the lenses still work on the new dSLRs. |
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| Sushipunk |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
On top of that Nikon's optics are really good. |
Totally depends on the lens you're using. My point-and-shoot Canon S2 took better shots (except for long range) than the 400D I used to have, with the crappy kit lenses that came with it.
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
Megapixels are a marketing gimmick. |
To a degree, perhaps, but having high MP on a DSLR is hardly a bad point, is it? Obviously it has a lot to do with the sensor in the camera, and its ability to accurately render the image, but the difference between a well rendered 6MP image and a well rendered 15MP image would be quite substantial. |
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| gehzumteufel |
th17sss: The 400d = US Rebel XTi
Oh and if you want to just get into it, just go pickup a second-hand rebel of any generation, and get a lens for it. around with it, and move up from there. You can usually get a 1-2 generation old rebel body with the regular kit lens for like $200-400. When you are just starting out this is more than enough. |
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| Sushipunk |
| quote: | Originally posted by gehzumteufel
th17sss: The 400d = US Rebel XTi
Oh and if you want to just get into it, just go pickup a second-hand rebel of any generation, and get a lens for it. around with it, and move up from there. You can usually get a 1-2 generation old rebel body with the regular kit lens for like $200-400. When you are just starting out this is more than enough. |
Ah , I forgot about that. Nice one Ben 
Edit: I agree with your ninja edit too :p ing jealous of the prices you guys can get for photography gear over there. |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sushipunk
Ah , I forgot about that. Nice one Ben
Edit: I agree with your ninja edit too :p ing jealous of the prices you guys can get for photography gear over there. |
lol yeah. I'd happily purchase things that you want if they are US shipping only as long as I have the money on hand. :) |
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| Zild |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sushipunk
Totally depends on the lens you're using. My point-and-shoot Canon S2 took better shots (except for long range) than the 400D I used to have, with the crappy kit lenses that came with it.
To a degree, perhaps, but having high MP on a DSLR is hardly a bad point, is it? Obviously it has a lot to do with the sensor in the camera, and its ability to accurately render the image, but the difference between a well rendered 6MP image and a well rendered 15MP image would be quite substantial. |
Very true but you would have to crop quite a lot and/or be running huge prints on large format printers. I was just explaining why a low mp dSLR with good glass will destroy a point and shoot with a lot more megapixels. A 400D is decent, but you definitely need to get better lenses ASAP. Kit lenses are usually trash. |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
Very true but you would have to crop quite a lot and/or be running huge prints on large format printers. I was just explaining why a low mp dSLR with good glass will destroy a point and shoot with a lot more megapixels. A 400D is decent, but you definitely need to get better lenses ASAP. Kit lenses are usually trash. |
While they are horrendous, they are great to learn with. They force you to make do with what you have. Something that a lot of people just don't know how to do with the camera they have.
Also, a point and shoot has its place, as does a DSLR. Neither is better than the other, as they both have their intended uses. |
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| Zild |
I know. I own a point and shoot, a digital slr, and a 35mm film slr.
The camera itself is fine, but the kit lens isn't great. When I bought my D70 there were two different kits. One with an 18-55mm lens that sucked balls, and another with a 18-70mm lens that was faster and has much better optics. You can upgrade the kit lenses on the rebels/400 and have a decent camera. |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
I know. I own a point and shoot, a digital slr, and a 35mm film slr.
The camera itself is fine, but the kit lens isn't great. When I bought my D70 there were two different kits. One with an 18-55mm lens that sucked balls, and another with a 18-70mm lens that was faster and has much better optics. You can upgrade the kit lenses on the rebels/400 and have a decent camera. |
Again, while I don't disagree, it forces people to use what they have and get the best from it. Too often these days, people go out and buy the best money can buy at the time, when they haven't a clue about how to use even 25% of the functions. |
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| Zild |
| I know. I never said to go out an buy a Mamiya. A higher end camera will have the same functions as a Rebel save maybe sync time, iso, frames per second etc... but the largest difference is an interface that is easier to control on the fly without pressing a lot of buttons, and professional build quality. I agree on buying a used older generation camera and a decent lens to begin with. I would suggest film but these days it is far too expensive. I wouldn't buy a Rebel, but I don't think there is anything wrong with them. They just don't suit my preference. |
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| gehzumteufel |
| Understandable. I want to get one just to get used to actually ing with settings. The only manual cameras I have messed with are film based, and I don't have the money to use the rolls and develop them. Far too costly. |
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