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Silky Johnson
Does Marvel Studios not have some serious dough? I'm just wondering why the wigs and facial hair in Thor Ragnarok are so blatantly bad, and have always been bad. The show Portlandia undoubtedly has a significantly smaller budget, and they have the best wigs/hair make up!
pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
It wasn't nearly as egregiously stupid as Prometheus on a plot level (although I have some major bones to pick with the central plot device) but it made me almost as angry. I seriously wanted to get up and leave in a couple of places. I was cringing in my seat.

I could write reams, but I don't want to spoil it for anyone. More than anything, I didn't think it was a Blade Runner film. Tone, style, genre, moral compass, music, everything. It's a dystopian action film with some nice visuals.


checked this out yet? feels very 70s-80s "traditional" cyberpunk to me. you might describe it as derivative, but that's because you're a bit of a cunt. certainly it's the first proper entry in the genre on tv that im aware of :)

SYSTEM-J
Can't be arsed with TV. I want to read the book though.
pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Can't be arsed with TV. I want to read the book though.


hey, i've got this awesome new movie you should see called a new hope.
-sorry, i much prefer screenplays.

:p

i think the book > movie truism is much less a thing now since tv actually got good and we got to see plots that lasted more than 90 minutes.

then again i still love trance so what do i know :toocool:
wotyzoid
Get Out
Dunkirk
Brigsly Bear
Zoso
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Originally posted by wotyzoid
Get Out
Dunkirk
Brigsly Bear


The dog fighting scenes in Dunkirk are just phenomenal. The special features showing how they modified a 2 seat plane to carry an IMAX camera was beyond awesome. I could watch a 3 or 4 hour film of large format film dog fights, only.
SYSTEM-J
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
hey, i've got this awesome new movie you should see called a new hope.
-sorry, i much prefer screenplays.

:p

i think the book > movie truism is much less a thing now since tv actually got good and we got to see plots that lasted more than 90 minutes.

then again i still love trance so what do i know :toocool:


I can't be bothered watching a full TV series. It's that simple. You've only got so much free time, and you can only focus on so many interests. My mate insisted I watch Breaking Bad, so my girlfriend and I did all five (six) seasons. And it was good, no doubt, but it took ages to get through. And honestly, I still would have rather watched 20 films in the same time frame.

Novels Vs Films is never simply about length of story. Neither medium is superior. Novels will always be better at psychological depiction and at exposition. That's the nature of prose. Screen adaptations generally feel inferior because you have to lose so much of this. But a novelisation of Hard Boiled would be a pale shadow of the original film. Some stories are told better with images and sounds, some better with prose.
pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I can't be bothered watching a full TV series. It's that simple. You've only got so much free time, and you can only focus on so many interests. My mate insisted I watch Breaking Bad, so my girlfriend and I did all five (six) seasons. And it was good, no doubt, but it took ages to get through. And honestly, I still would have rather watched 20 films in the same time frame.

Novels Vs Films is never simply about length of story. Neither medium is superior. Novels will always be better at psychological depiction and at exposition. That's the nature of prose. Screen adaptations generally feel inferior because you have to lose so much of this. But a novelisation of Hard Boiled would be a pale shadow of the original film. Some stories are told better with images and sounds, some better with prose.


:stongue: mate, i might be a bit simple but im not argue-with-SJ-about-music-films-novels simple :) just being a bit cheeky (is a long weekend here for me so am getting hammered and bingeing altered carbon).

with that said, i think in a general sense speculative fiction benefits more from images and sound than most genres. i've done the opposite to you by eschewing novels in favour of tv novelisation. at the end of 2017 sushipunk got me to read gibson's The Peripheral (which im really enjoying), but since it's not xmas holidays anymore i have no idea when i'll finish the final third. i blame my ty/lazy imagination.
webomen
You've awaken me. I am intrigued!


quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
checked this out yet? feels very 70s-80s "traditional" cyberpunk to me. you might describe it as derivative, but that's because you're a bit of a cunt. certainly it's the first proper entry in the genre on tv that im aware of :)

SYSTEM-J
quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
with that said, i think in a general sense speculative fiction benefits more from images and sound than most genres. i've done the opposite to you by eschewing novels in favour of tv novelisation. at the end of 2017 sushipunk got me to read gibson's The Peripheral (which im really enjoying), but since it's not xmas holidays anymore i have no idea when i'll finish the final third. i blame my ty/lazy imagination.


You know what? I have come to the exact opposite conclusion in the last year or so. The abject tiness of widely lauded "thoughtful" science fiction films such as Arrival and Bladerunner 2049 has made me think that cinematic sci-fi fans have a seriously low bar for what they consider "thoughtful". All the ideas in these films have been explored in much greater detail and in much more interesting ways by books that are 40 or 50 years old. And when I think about it, there's probably less than 10 truly great science fiction films that have ever been made. It just works so much better as prose fiction. That's where the genre was invented and where the vast majority of content is still born.

paulversuspaul
as a big cinema guy and a big prose guy, i generally feel like the cinema does realism better and prose does fantasy better. Exact opposite of what gets made though. Almost all cinema today is fantasy and prose is trying to be realistic but for my money its the exact opposite. I prefer watching a new wave film if I want to know what it was like living in paris in the 60s as a cinephile but if i want my mind expanded by good sci fi the prose is the way to go as opposed to the crap sci fi films like arrival.
Zoso
Speaking non-fantasy, I recently watched Trumbo. Damned fine dialogue-drive movie about the famous Hollywood screenwriter Dalton Trumbo who had to deal with the infamous "blacklist" during all the McCarthy brouhaha.
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