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The movie recommendations thread, son (pg. 92)
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jarvmeister
I know this is bull, commit first degree murder and you face the death penalty in some states. You'll never get the death penalty for any type of drug offence in the USA.
Your generalisation that drugs warrant stiffer penalties than murder is ridiculous.
I know it. Everyone else knows it.
Sure, there are some instances where a stiffer penalty will be issued for drug use than a murder, but the fact that the stiffest punishment for drugs is less harsh than the stiffest punishment for murder really does, without any shadow of doubt, prove that murder is considered a more serious crime than drug dealing.
Your go. |
lulz you are so blinded by your wish to believe I am a pecker, that you are ing clueless.
Just to illustrate my point:
http://www.amnews.com/stories/2010/08/04/loc.929387.sto
http://mingkok.buddhistdoor.com/en/news/d/13661 <-- this one isn't even in the US!
http://www.thelocal.se/27658/20100707/
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/motiveless-wifemurderer-gets-18-years-20100906-14y00.html <--another not in the US.
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/421935_sister17.html
http://blog.al.com/live/2010/02/mobile_ala_man_gets_split_sent.html |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jarvmeister
I don't remember saying he did. I believe I was the one who raised that point........ |
His point is that its almost equitable to murder, and in some cases, receives harsher penalties than murder. That to me sounds pretty outrageous and his point is a fair one to make. |
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| Jarvmeister |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
His point is that its almost equitable to murder, and in some cases, receives harsher penalties then murder. That to me sounds pretty outrageous and his point is a fair one to make. |
No, his point was that it is considered a more serious crime than murder, and if you read my post I ackowlege that there are occasions when drug offenses will get stiffer penaties than murder.
BUT you cannot argue that first degree murder has a higher maximum penalty than drug dealing.
End of. There is no further argunment about it.
And I love gehzumteufel's desperate attempt to claw back a little dignity by posting a whole host of news stories that miss the point. I don't care if you post a case where a drug dealer got 30 years and a murderer got 10, I will just point you to the argument I have been making all along: because of the max penalty in the USA, murder is considered a more serious crime than drug dealing. It's a fact, you cannot argue it!
TBH I'm done with this now, it's going nowhere. I didn't like your response to Yukii's post, I thought it was uncalled for.
Respond if you like, but do it in the knowledge that I won't reply. |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jarvmeister
No, his point was that it is considered a more serious crime than murder.
It is not, it doesn't matter what you two post, you cannot argue that first degree murder has a higher maximum penalty than drug dealing.
End of. There is no further argunment about it.
And I love gehzumteufel's desperate attempt to claw back a little dignity by posting a whole host of news stories that miss the point. I don't care if you post a case where a drug dealer got 30 years and a murderer got 10, I will just point you to the argument I have been making all along: because of the max penalty in the USA, murder is considered a more serious crime than drug dealing. It's a fact, you cannot argue it!
TBH I'm done with this now, it's going nowhere. I didn't like your response to Yukii's post, I thought it was uncalled for.
Respond if you like, but do it in the knowledge that I won't reply. |
Are you aware that most murderers don't get first degree murder?! ing christ on a bike. You profess as if you ing know what you're talking about and then only go on about how the maximum penalty for first degree murder is higher than most drug related offenses. Is that all you have? Is a ing text book answer to what some line in the penal code says? For s sake go keep hiding under a ing rock.
Also, you got it wrong. I never said that it was considered a worse crime. Here is the quote from what I said:
| quote: | Originally posted by gehzumteufel
The thing is, you find it sad because you are around a culture that makes drugs such a taboo and as a result, treat people that are involved in them, upstanding or not, like . As if they are rapists or child molesters. |
| quote: | Originally posted by gehzumteufel
You need to consider why this film has caused society to presume that drugs will lead to this. The US is a ing cesspool of idiocy when it comes to the true effects of drugs. I mean , we put marijuana dealers (yes, I mean ones that strictly only deal marijuana) in jail for longer than murderers!
Look at the people that are advocating for all drugs and alcohol being banned. They are religious morality idiots. |
Now kindly run along. |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
| i think it was the religious idiots part that got to him. |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
i think it was the religious idiots part that got to him. |
Dawww poor baby. He can cry me a ing river for all I care. |
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| Omega_Blue |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
watched brick on fri night. neo noir but set in a modern day highschool. i thought it was pretty clever and the dialogue was fun. it didn't have spaceships in it though so i can't speak for its overall quality, but definitely hooked me.
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watched it just a few minutes ago. i liked it, i like the whole neo-noir thing; but at times i couldn't help but feel that the high school setting and other childish elements of the film made it almost feel like a parody at times. is there any website that you know of that gives an in-depth summary of the film? i didn't totally understand the conclusion of the plot. i mean, i have a pretty solid understanding of it but i felt that overall the film was put together a little sloppily and it admittedly confused me at certain points. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Omega_Blue
watched it just a few minutes ago. i liked it, i like the whole neo-noir thing; but at times i couldn't help but feel that the high school setting and other childish elements of the film made it almost feel like a parody at times. is there any website that you know of that gives an in-depth summary of the film? i didn't totally understand the conclusion of the plot. i mean, i have a pretty solid understanding of it but i felt that overall the film was put together a little sloppily and it admittedly confused me at certain points. |
i dunno, wiki maybe. it was pretty straight-forward, if like me, you rewound dialogue you didn't get the first time. but i like films like that :)
im no movie critic but i thought the parody bits (the high school archetypes in detective story) were part of the movie's charm. ie i thought the scene with the mum was great :stongue: |
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| Omega_Blue |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
i dunno, wiki maybe. it was pretty straight-forward, if like me, you rewound dialogue you didn't get the first time. but i like films like that :)
im no movie critic but i thought the parody bits (the high school archetypes in detective story) were part of the movie's charm. ie i thought the scene with the mum was great :stongue: |
wiki has a basic summary but no in-depth analysis. i didn't bother rewinding the dialogue i missed because at the time i was watching it while trying to go to bed- the plot hooked me though and i ended up staying up and watching it all the way through :p i'm probably gonna have to watch it again.
and yeah, the first scenes that came to mind, parody-wise, was the scenes with the pin's mom hookin' it up with the apple juice, lol. i didn't like the idea that the guy was supposedly 26 years old, picking up 10 keys of raw at a time, but still livin with his mom. i understand why the director chose to do that, but it felt a bit off. |
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| Silky Johnson |
| The best thing RFD had going for it was Ellen Burstyn's character. I really felt so ing sad for her...she was so pathetic in a Willy Loman kinda way. |
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| gmilf |
| Picked up 60 years of cannes box set while in Asia. RFD is in there somewhere but I keep re-watching pulpfiction. I'll post quick approvals or rejections as I work my way through this. Wind that shakes barely is good, but watch Breakfast on Pluto instead. The Pianist...meh, if you've seen one WWII flick you've seen this, if you haven't watch "come and see" instead. L'ENFANT is worth a view but Elephant is really not. |
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| eternalmay |
| Inception, of course |
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