Originally posted by Meat187
That's giving them too much credit. What happens is that the idiots are just making the same movie again and again, so they put out that crap once more to gross some more cash and some screenwriter or producer says "Hey, let's make the main characters lesbian / gay / anything different this time. That makes it totally original despite telling the same ing story and modern and hip". And everyone claps his hands and agrees what a great idea that was.
Pretty much.
WittyHandle
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Originally posted by The17sss
lol wut?
Seems pretty simple to me.
WittyHandle
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Originally posted by Meat187
I'm not sure that there's such thing as a gay / lesbian / anti-traditional agenda in hollywood. That's giving them too much credit.
I don't think it's so much of an agenda as it is people writing from their own perspective, and the right wing conservative screen writers guild orders less sandwiches for their meetings for some reason.
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Originally posted by Meat187
What happens is that the idiots are just making the same movie again and again, so they put out that crap once more to gross some more cash and some screenwriter or producer says "Hey, let's make the main characters lesbian / gay / anything different this time. That makes it totally original despite telling the same ing story and modern and hip". And everyone claps his hands and agrees what a great idea that was.
Their applause doesn't make the decibel meter jump nearly as much as the audience that they make it for in the first place.
Meat187
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Originally posted by WittyHandle
Their applause doesn't make the decibel meter jump nearly as much as the audience that they make it for in the first place.
There's nothing I hate quite as much as "the audience" and how every movie has a right to exist because its what the ing audience wants these days.
What Hollywood does is giving a prisoner nothing but water and bread to eat and then saying "There's no need for any other food, after all he likes what he gets, eating it every day!" :whip:
The17sss
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Originally posted by WittyHandle
Seems pretty simple to me.
Yeah but I wasn't saying anything about militant homosexual agendas or oppressing conservative values. It's just turning into an annoying sell of what's now a cliche. Hollywood doesn't get that their reality isn't reflected in mainstream America, but they try try try nevertheless to keep putting lipstick on that pig. That's why movies like this and all those anti war films bomb at the box office (see Green Zone, Rendition, In The Valley of Elah, etc.).
gehzumteufel
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Originally posted by The17sss
Yeah but I wasn't saying anything about militant homosexual agendas or oppressing conservative values. It's just turning into an annoying sell of what's now a cliche. Hollywood doesn't get that their reality isn't reflected in mainstream America, but they try try try nevertheless to keep putting lipstick on that pig. That's why movies like this and all those anti war films bomb at the box office (see Green Zone, Rendition, In The Valley of Elah, etc.).
They bomb because mainstream US populations don't want to admit that these are realities.
Meat187
Oh god, now this is turning into a US politics thread. :mad:
*runs fast and far*
WittyHandle
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Originally posted by Meat187
There's nothing I hate quite as much as "the audience" and how every movie has a right to exist because its what the ing audience wants these days.
What Hollywood does is giving a prisoner nothing but water and bread to eat and then saying "There's no need for any other food, after all he likes what he gets, eating it every day!" :whip:
I didn't say it had a right to exist, I just explained the reason, which I suspect you already knew. If you want quality films, they're out there, just don't look to Hollywood. It's like ordering a rare prime rib at McDonalds.
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Originally posted by The17sss
Yeah but I wasn't saying anything about militant homosexual agendas or oppressing conservative values. It's just turning into an annoying sell of what's now a cliche. Hollywood doesn't get that their reality isn't reflected in mainstream America, but they try try try nevertheless to keep putting lipstick on that pig. That's why movies like this and all those anti war films bomb at the box office (see Green Zone, Rendition, In The Valley of Elah, etc.).
Most of Hollywood is a cliche, why can't they have theirs too? These themes are representations of many lives in America. If you dislike it so much, let your feelings be justified in dismal box office sales if it turns out that way. The people behind these movies want to make them and obviously have investors that agree.
P.S. I loved Green Zone :p
The17sss
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Originally posted by gehzumteufel
They bomb because mainstream US populations don't want to admit that these are realities.
lol... come on Ben. Platoon, Born on the 4th of July, and Full Metal Jacket were very much anti war and about the same type of harsh realities. Today's anti war movies are so much more about Hollywood pushing ideology than "the difficult truth", which is why they bomb. A good product sells, end of story.
LeopoldStotch
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Originally posted by Meat187
Oh god, now this is turning into a US politics thread. :mad:
*runs fast and far*
* runs too *
i do tend to stay away from political correct / incorrect propaganda that tries to force feed information into people's mouths. those types of documentaries and movies sicken me. for example, this:
this movie is a goldmine for people who love to wear aluminum foil on their heads, don't use cell phones, and go on the internet behind 3 proxies.
i do agree it is typical hollywood where they take a pretty ty plot, and recycle it throughout multiple movies.
WittyHandle
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Originally posted by The17sss
A well marketed product sells, end of story.
Ficksed
MrJiveBoJingles
Sale numbers aren't much of a way to judge a product one way or another. Many good products sell, but so do lots of ones.
