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delobbo
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Originally posted by Frenchie
Watching this is intense. :/

watching what
Frenchie
quote:
Originally posted by delobbo
watching what
The election on TV.
delobbo
quote:
Originally posted by Frenchie
The election on TV.

i mean what channel
Lira
quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
are you taking the piss?

No, I've never cast my vote on a ballot in my whole life. Brazil's been using voting machines for nearly a decade (if not more), and you've got to be pretty ignorant about the whole electronic voting thing to think they're vulnerable.

edit: Just in case you've never used one of those, there's a printer that registers every single vote, and you can check whether the info it entered is correct.
Frenchie
quote:
Originally posted by delobbo
i mean what channel


CBS-E

Edit- it's on almost every major channel. Fox, CBS, ABC, CNN, some Canadian channels.
delobbo
cool thanks.. i dont even have the TV on.. :(
Frenchie
quote:
Originally posted by delobbo
cool thanks.. i dont even have the TV on.. :(
No need. You can check cbsnews.com for updates.

http://www.cbsnews.com/
delobbo
im watching cnn.com for now..
pkcRAISTLIN
quote:
Originally posted by Lira
No, I've never cast my vote on a ballot in my whole life. Brazil's been using voting machines for nearly a decade (if not more), and you've got to be pretty ignorant about the whole electronic voting thing to think they're vulnerable.

edit: Just in case you've never used one of those, there's a printer that registers every single vote, and you can check whether the info it entered is correct.


there's nothing at all to stop malicious code being placed in the system and telling you whatever you want to hear. i certainly don't trust them in the US where there is a rather large amount of anecdotal evidence of machines changing votes.
chach
We should have a vast system of AIs that run the world metal gear style. :p

Lira
quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
there's nothing at all to stop malicious code being placed in the system and telling you whatever you want to hear. i certainly don't trust them in the US where there is a rather large amount of anecdotal evidence of machines changing votes.

All parties audit the system right before the election and, given the fact that changing the code before the election would be nearly impossible and extremely laborious for that reason alone, I fail to see how thousands of hackers could (1) reprogram the machine after they're done voting without any sort of unusual bleep (or clank) that sounded like they were raping r2d2, (2) alter the perception of all voters when they check the printed result and (3) get away with all this and don't expect the defeated parties to demand a recount (that's what the printed results are for, after all).
pkcRAISTLIN
quote:
Originally posted by Lira
All parties audit the system right before the election and, given the fact that changing the code before the election would be nearly impossible and extremely laborious for that reason alone, I fail to see how thousands of hackers could (1) reprogram the machine after they're done voting without any sort of unusual bleep (or clank) that sounded like they were raping r2d2, (2) alter the perception of all voters when they check the printed result and (3) get away with all this and don't expect the defeated parties to demand a recount (that's what the printed results are for, after all).


well, one of the programmers (?) or someone tied to diebolt did testify under oath that they were approached by someone in the republican party to rig the machines. and then there's all the people that say the machines have been changing their vote etc.
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