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Obama, for the win. (pg. 56)
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| RJT |
I ing love Jeff. :stongue:
In all seriousness though, the moment HTP made it to this thread I decided that I'd either let him read through it all and realize he made an arse of himself later or wait for Jeff to sort him (as he is far, far more knowledgeable about this than anyone else I know - man, I'd probably be lost without a lot of his posts in this thread).
Basically I think everyone knew how this was going to turn out ahead of time, but it was entertaining no less.
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
I ing love Jeff. :stongue:
In all seriousness though, the moment HTP made it to this thread I decided that I'd either let him read through it all and realize he made an arse of himself later or wait for Jeff to sort him (as he is far, far more knowledgeable about this than anyone else I know - man, I'd probably be lost without a lot of his posts in this thread).
Basically I think everyone knew how this was going to turn out ahead of time, but it was entertaining no less.
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Lol, I just stay in a Holiday Inn Express. A lot.
The Catholic thing may have a bit of merit, but that's a trend over the past twenty years and nothing to do with Obama in particular. But I still fail to see the validity in extrapolating conclusions about a Republican-Democrat competition from the (inconclusive) results of a Democrat-Democrat competition. For crying out loud, Pennsylvania was a closed primary - the only people voting are registered Democrats, not independents. Does anyone really believe that registered Democrats are going to defect en masse if Obama wins the nomination just because he's somehow more pro-choice than the female pro-choice candidate? |
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| RJT |
I just think HTP assumes he knows more about U.S. politics than he actually does. :p
But to answer your question, the reason I think people say things like the above comment from HTP (or really any comment from him) is because they really haven't a clue how any kind of electoral situation works in the U.S.
For someone who's chastised me on several occasions for getting news from CNN and NBC, this kid sure doesn't have straight.
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| RJT |
It doesn't surprise me in the least - her whole campaign for the last two months has felt like she was grasping at anything she could just to keep her name in the race.
Now she's broke and what is it, 40 or so pledged delegates, are all that Obama needs to seal the deal? |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| i read a story on cnn that said she got heaps of donations after PA? |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
i read a story on cnn that said she got heaps of donations after PA? |
Her campaign is reporting $10 million, but I don't know how accurate that actually is. |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
i read a story on cnn that said she got heaps of donations after PA? |
Her top advisor has claimed $10 million in new donations since PA... which would decrease her debt down to about $5 million. However, those donations have not been verified yet (or at least hadn't as of this afternoon before I started drinking). |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| this whole money issue in american politics is ing terrible, you guys know that right? |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
this whole money issue in american politics is ing terrible, you guys know that right? |
You really take us for some thick s, don't you?
The choir - you're preaching to it. ;) |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
this whole money issue in american politics is ing terrible, you guys know that right? |
Oh I agree. But it's not so bad as the media sometimes portrays it. Donations are capped at $2,300 per individual, so the wealthiest people don't really have the ability to sway elections as much as one might imagine. And the trend has been to move away from corporate donations toward private individuals... Obama has been particularly strident about this stipulation.
In all, I think the money thing can be good - successful fundraising is based now on broad appeal - for instance, Obama has been incredibly good at raising a ton of money because he has attracted over one million individual donors. So yeah, money is important. But behind that money is a heck of a lot of committed voters. |
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