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Obama, for the win. (pg. 4)
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| chach |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
That, or wallow in embarrassment - but hey, I'm an optimist. :gsmile: |
Sure beats these last 4 years, but hey our country is slowly dying due to obese children. So who cares anyways. |
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| iammesol |
| quote: | Originally posted by chach
Sure beats these last 4 years, but hey our country is slowly dying due to obese children. So who cares anyways. |
w0rd, we need stronger hospital beds for our generation
and a built in vending machine wouldn't hurt |
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| jerZ07002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Obama would easily take New Jersey - he hasn't set foot in either PA or MI yet though, so I'll reserve judgment. The interesting fact about this election so far is that of voters in the Democratic primaries who decided within a month of their vote, Obama leads Hillary 63-37. The more face time he gets with voters, the more support he gets. That is rare in a candidate. |
i disagree...i'm from NJ, and i don't see it happening. we have a huge moderate republican base and kerry barely took the state in 04 when bush wasn't exactly very popular around here. McCain is much more moderate so it would be a much tougher victory for any dem, especially an extremely liberal dem.
NJ is not that liberal like mass or vt. this state relies hugely on wall street and pharmaceuticals and the anti-business talk coming from obama won't go very far in NJ.
the popularity thing is mind blowing. although he is extremely charismatic, and he would probably do a lot to restore our international position. I also like most of his international policies. His domestic policies don't sit well though. Mostly, i don't like what i hear from him about his stance on the economy. for that matter, i don't like any of the candidates stances on the economy. i just think his is the worst. |
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| jonze |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
The pic they have of Obama on the main page of http://news.yahoo.com right now is epic win. |
hands down jesus pose?!?!? is markus schulz his campaign manager? |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by jonze
hands down jesus pose?!?!? is markus schulz his campaign manager? |
"Electro Hairspray" should be his campaign theme song. :o |
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| iammesol |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
"Electro Hairspray" should be his campaign theme song. :o |
That song ing sucks. :o |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Originally posted by jerZ07002
i disagree...i'm from NJ, and i don't see it happening. we have a huge moderate republican base and kerry barely took the state in 04 when bush wasn't exactly very popular around here. McCain is much more moderate so it would be a much tougher victory for any dem, especially an extremely liberal dem. |
Obama is twice the candidate Kerry was. Kerry sucked as a nominee - he failed to galvanize even the most progressive Dems.
And McCain at this point isn't offering much different than Bush. He's standing side by side with him on Iraq, FISA, torture (because John McCain is a hypocrite), and a whole host of other issues. In fact, McCain is consistently rated one of the most conservative Senators in Congress by the ACU - more conservative in fact than such nutjobs as Tom Coburn and Sam Brownback.
| quote: | | NJ is not that liberal like mass or vt. |
Obama's base is not composed of the liberal progressives.
| quote: | | the popularity thing is mind blowing. although he is extremely charismatic, and he would probably do a lot to restore our international position. I also like most of his international policies. His domestic policies don't sit well though. Mostly, i don't like what i hear from him about his stance on the economy. for that matter, i don't like any of the candidates stances on the economy. i just think his is the worst. |
Well, I'm curious as to how his stance on the economy is worse than McCain's, but that is obviously simply your opinion and doesn't reflect the state of New Jersey in any way. Here, I'll let the numbers make my point for me - look at turnout in the Feb. 5 primary:
| quote: | | Of the state's 4.8 million registered votes, 1,114,609 voters cast ballots in the Democratic primary, while 558,007 voted in the Republican primary. |
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/20...on_super_t.html
That's a 2:1 ratio there! The Dems are energized - the GOP is not. Add to that the fact that either Hillary or Obama would have a huge fundraising head start even if this primary drags on for another month, a huge division within the Republican party and a legit threat at a third-party run by a social conservative (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23163724/), and a country where only 24% stand by the incumbent President and his Iraq War strategy, and McCain is not in a good spot in NJ any way you look at it. |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by iammesol
That song ing sucks. :o |
You just hate unicorns, that's all. :mad:
Prick. |
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| iammesol |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
unicorns
Prick. |
You tryin' to say somethin'?!! |
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| bangoSkank |
jesus pose? |
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| Sushipunk |
| Hahaha nice one :haha: |
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