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| Clovis |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
I don't. At least not that way.
I won't vote for Hilary. Period. |
At least it's just you. |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| 10 months into this election cycle and I still don't understand irrational hatred of Hillary. Though I think it is apparent that over the last 10 months it has subsided quite a bit - many of those following the election closely have come to judge her on policy rather than gut feeling. |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
10 months into this election cycle and I still don't understand irrational hatred of Hillary. |
It's because misogyny is stronger than racism. :gsmile:
| quote: | Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
gut feeling. |
Appearance is the crux of democracy. |
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| Spacey Orange |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
10 months into this election cycle and I still don't understand irrational hatred of Hillary. Though I think it is apparent that over the last 10 months it has subsided quite a bit - many of those following the election closely have come to judge her on policy rather than gut feeling. |
Americans have an aversion to monarchies. what's so hard to understand? |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spacey Orange
Americans have an aversion to monarchies. what's so hard to understand? |
That has nothing to do with hating Hillary. |
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| paulandrews |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spacey Orange
Americans have an aversion to monarchies. what's so hard to understand? |
Maybe you meant 'matriarchy'? |
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| RJT |
Two words: media censorship.
I won't support any candidate who has ever advocated such policy.
Lieberman has dipped his prick into her pie one too many times as far as I'm concerned.
Edit: And at the end of the day I don't trust her, or the "experience" she seems all to too interested in reminding us that she has.
Would any of you vote for someone you have absolutely zero faith in?
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If the answer is yes, you're either a superficial or lying.
*Cue HTP post somewhere along the lines of:
| quote: | | OMG you trust politicians? LOL, so naive. |
And the intentional misunderstanding rolls on... |
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| Arbiter |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
Would any of you vote for someone you have absolutely zero faith in?. |
Sadly, yes.
If only I had an alternative! But the republicans must be stopped, no matter the cost, which means I have no choice but to vote for the winner of hillary/obama, neither of whom I have any faith in. Ugh.
Of course, unless I get my ass out of Texas before the general election, I may as well not have a vote anyway... |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Arbiter
Sadly, yes.
If only I had an alternative! But the republicans must be stopped, no matter the cost, which means I have no choice but to vote for the winner of hillary/obama, neither of whom I have any faith in. Ugh.
Of course, unless I get my ass out of Texas before the general election, I may as well not have a vote anyway... |
That's unfortunate, I can't. Never have been capable of it, and doubt that I ever will be.
Obviously everyone defines personal integrity differently, but I just can't bring myself to support anyone for anything (from hall monitor to president) whom I have a genuine dislike or distrust of. |
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| Arbiter |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
Obviously everyone defines personal integrity differently, but I just can't bring myself to support anyone for anything (from hall monitor to president) whom I have a genuine dislike or distrust of. |
Well, I am a rather intensely skeptical person when it comes to most things, so distrust is pretty much my default position. I suppose I am a bit used to it.
I wouldn't even say that I am actively supporting the candidate who I will vote for, but in the context of the two-party system (which I abhor, for what it's worth) and considering that, while I don't feel any affinity for either party, there is one in particular which is many times over more loathsome, I feel as though I do not even have a choice.
I suppose that what I am really supporting is not the candidate himself (or herself) but only an end to the great horror that has befallen us for the last seven and counting years. That is an idea I can enthusiastically get behind. |
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| Alex |
If by some random act of god Obama pulls out, Hillary would be bat crazy not to ask him.
If Obama wins, he wont pick her, it completely goes against all the change stuff he talks about.
Edwards might be a jynx, so that's not a safe bet either.
He should ask Romney :stongue: |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Arbiter
Well, I am a rather intensely skeptical person when it comes to most things, so distrust is pretty much my default position. I suppose I am a bit used to it.
I wouldn't even say that I am actively supporting the candidate who I will vote for, but in the context of the two-party system (which I abhor, for what it's worth) and considering that, while I don't feel any affinity for either party, there is one in particular which is many times over more loathsome, I feel as though I do not even have a choice.
I suppose that what I am really supporting is not the candidate himself (or herself) but only an end to the great horror that has befallen us for the last seven and counting years. That is an idea I can enthusiastically get behind. |
I like to think that I have a bit of skepticism in me as well, but in truth I'm probably a bit of a bleeding heart idealist.
I do understand the logic behind casting your vote for the Dems regardless of who their candidate is, it's a natural outgrowth of the bipartisan system you and I share a similar disdain for. Unfortunately for me, the fact that it all too often comes down to picking the lesser of two evils makes me feel compelled to cast my ballot in a way that I am not comfortable with, and I just can't bring myself to do it. I don't like passive or active forces dictating to me how I have to act.
Beyond that I do actually believe with all my heart that Obama is what this country needs right now in a major way - though the argument can be made that "politics is politics", his relatively small amount of time in Washington appeals to me in a major way. I see Hilary as the pinnacle product of Washington - she knows what people want to hear, but seems to care only about getting votes, and I genuinely don't feel that she would embody the measure of change in our leadership that I would find acceptable.
As I said before, I just don't trust her. Not even a little bit, and I can't in good conscience endorse anyone to lead my country whom I have absolutely no faith in.
I've put up with that for the last 8 years, I hope it doesn't carry on for another 8. |
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