Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
I was more expecting the "so I can shoot at cans on my grandpa's porch" myself.
actually I own several guns myself....
and I like Obama......
Lilith
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Originally posted by narcism
thats merely not as exciting than inflicting harm to someone :p
:haha:
You missed your calling in life as a dental nurse didn't you?
narcism
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Originally posted by Lilith
:haha:
You missed your calling in life as a dental nurse didn't you?
:stongue: i do worse things to ppl than pull their teeth out ;)
Tranceporter99
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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Why? Please support your argument.
"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in Government."
Thomas Jefferson
Several reasons. Not the least of which is mentioned in the above quote. Do you think the American Revolution would have been possible were it not for personal gun ownership? I am not saying a second American Revolution will happen, but its a possibility. The United States is special in the ease and peaceful transfer of power every 4-8 years, but that doesn't mean it will always be that way. Also, personal defense is an absolutely inalienable right for humanity.
MrJiveBoJingles
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Originally posted by Tranceporter99
Mmm...the point of arms ownership is not the physical resistance that would be provided, which would be paltry and ineffective in the face of military weapons like tanks and missiles, but the psychological effect that a resistant population would have on the army attempting to repress it.
I think the proper way to go about discussing gun rights is simply to ask what the proper duties of government are and what kinds of restrictions on weapons are required for those duties to be carried out successfully. Not to center the argument around fantastic hypotheticals like defense against dictatorship...
Lira
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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Not to center the argument around fantastic hypotheticals like defense against dictatorship...
FANTASTIC!? ARE YOU KIDDING!?
THOSE MADREFUNKING STEALTH MISSILES CAN'T STAND A CHANCE AGAINST MY RIFLE!!! THEM BITCHES WON'T EVEN DARE TO GO NUCULAR!!!! I CAN NUKE MY FROZEN FOOD, AND I CAN MADREFUNKING NUKE THEM TOO!!!
:p
MrJiveBoJingles
Obama sees dead people!
"On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes -- and I see many of them in the audience here today -- our sense of patriotism is particularly strong."
iammesol
Obama sees dead people.
Tranceporter99
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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Mmm...the point of arms ownership is not the physical resistance that would be provided, which would be paltry and ineffective in the face of military weapons like tanks and missiles, but the psychological effect that a resistant population would have on the army attempting to repress it.
I think the proper way to go about discussing gun rights is simply to ask what the proper duties of government are and what kinds of restrictions on weapons are required for those duties to be carried out successfully. Not to center the argument around fantastic hypotheticals like defense against dictatorship...
maybe, but the point of the second amendment was clear. " The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it."
--Thomas Jefferson.
And to be quite honest, look at how well our "tanks and missles" have done in Iraq. A determined armed militia is as effective as a large military force when used properly.
LazFX
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Originally posted by Tranceporter99
maybe, but the point of the second amendment was clear. " The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it."
--Thomas Jefferson.
And to be quite honest, look at how well our "tanks and missles" have done in Iraq. A determined armed militia is as effective as a large military force when used properly.
well stated.
RapidFire
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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Obama sees dead people!
"On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes -- and I see many of them in the audience here today -- our sense of patriotism is particularly strong."
at the risk of stating the obvious-
Im pretty sure he meant that he sees heroes there, not the fallen ones.
RJT
I was reading the news on a small break during class this morning and stumbled on this:
(CNN) – With only three primary contests remaining in the prolonged race for the Democratic nomination, Hillary Clinton is stepping up her efforts to convince potential voters and the party's superdelegates that she is a stronger general election candidate than Barack Obama.
In a particularly spirited speech Tuesday night at a Montana campaign event, the New York Senator suggested Obama is much more likely to lose to presumptive Republican nominee John McCain next fall.
"We have not gone through this exciting unprecedented historic election only to lose," Clinton said at an event in Billings, Montana.
"You have to ask yourself who is the stronger candidate?" she continued. "And based on every analysis of every bit of research and every poll that’s been taken and every state that a democrat has to win, I am the stronger candidate against John McCain in the fall."
It was not immediately clear which polls and states Clinton was specifically referencing.
Recent polls out of the crucial swing states of Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida have indicated she has a better chance of beating McCain in those places than Barack Obama. But the Illinois senator performs better is several other swing states that Democrats have historically had difficulty winning, such as New Mexico, Nevada, and Colorado.
Bitch is officially bat- insane and reaching further than I could ever have possibly imagined. My favorite part is the sentence that starts with "It was not immediately clear..."
More thoughts when I have more time, but lulz for now. :stongue:
