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Obama, for the win. (pg. 75)
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XaNaX
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Originally posted by RJT
I was reading the news on a small break during class this morning and stumbled on this:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/



Bitch is officially bat- insane and reaching further than I could ever have possibly imagined. My favorite part is the sentence that starts with "It was not immediately clear..."

More thoughts when I have more time, but lulz for now. :stongue:



lol she cracks me up. Now she is saying she will take this all the way to the convention if she has to. And lol at that "We have not gone through this exciting unprecedented historic election only to lose,". By we she meant her, because she doesn't give two s about the democratic party winning unless she is the one on the ballot in November. The amusing thing is, if the democrats lose she is probably the cause of it because she can't just accept that the voters have not selected her. So say she does get the nomination and then she loses both the popular vote and the electoral vote to McCain, is she gonna file a lawsuit and say she should just be named president because she is the better candidate? That is what she is trying to pull here. I wouldn't put it past her, especially with Bill and all her advisers telling her that the presidency is her god given right. She really has the absolute worst group of political advisors of any candidate in recent memory. This whole deal with fighting for the nomination will go nowhere and has pretty much killed any shot she might have in a future election I think,
verndogs
Honestly, I hope she stays until the end. She's been very entertaining. :haha:
RJT
quote:
Originally posted by XaNaX
This whole deal with fighting for the nomination will go nowhere and has pretty much killed any shot she might have in a future election I think.


If that's true, then I really don't mind it at all. Anything to see her career collapse in on itself.

I just think it's hilarious that she's literally the only person left who seems to believe there's a point to her remaining in the race. Yahoo news ran a story this morning, the title of which was "Can Hilary readjust to the Senate?"

It was one of the best things I've ever seen - just a mass media outlet like that basically saying "Listen bitch, why don't you have a seat right there?" was pure gold.
verndogs
Once again....

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Originally posted by verndogs
I feel even more justified for taking the train back from Philly to NYC in 2000 just so I can vote against Hillary when she ran for Senator in NY.
MrJiveBoJingles
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Lebezniatnikov
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Originally posted by Tranceporter99

And to be quite honest, look at how well our "tanks and missles" have done in Iraq. A determined armed militia is as effective as a large military force when used properly.


Wait, are you arguing for the right to bear Berettas, or IED's?
Tranceporter99
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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Wait, are you arguing for the right to bear Berettas, or IED's?


To own firearms including shotguns, handguns, assault rifles, etc. IEDs are "improvised explosive devices" retard. Make another thread about what happens if their were to be a violent revolution in America and then we can discuss tactics or what I would do. You avoided the entire point of my post. When you criticize someones post, for it to be legitimate, you have to include the entire post, not one part that can be taken out of context to suit your needs. Nice try Keith Olbermann.
MrJiveBoJingles
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Originally posted by Tranceporter99
Make another thread about what happens if their were to be a violent revolution in America and then we can discuss tactics or what I would do.

LOL.

And judging by your tone I assume that you have thought this out quite extensively. :stongue:
Ang ' ela_ie
Sharing an office with a Hillary fanatic is becoming unendurable. He seriously thinks that Hillary is going to get the nomination, and he keeps mouthing off about the ing Florida and Michigan thing. Im so sick of this. Ive been reduced to telling him that I dont care about the election anymore, and to go find someone else to talk to about it.
Alex
I love how Obama points out (Frequently) that Hillary just didn't care about Florida or Michigan when her campaign didn't need votes. :stongue:

Also, I don't get why her supporters just look passed her OBVIOUS flaws, like pretending to represent the middle class while being a kajillionaire and just being two faced in general.

MrJiveBoJingles
I don't care about the election anymore.

I still find the big circus kind of amusing, though.
RJT
quote:
Originally posted by Tranceporter99
To own firearms including shotguns, handguns, assault rifles, etc. IEDs are "improvised explosive devices" retard. Make another thread about what happens if their were to be a violent revolution in America and then we can discuss tactics or what I would do. You avoided the entire point of my post. When you criticize someones post, for it to be legitimate, you have to include the entire post, not one part that can be taken out of context to suit your needs. Nice try Keith Olbermann.


:stongue:

You didn't have a point to begin with - though the fact that you bring up the concept of taking something in "context" is absolutely hilarious on many, many levels.

But I've got a few minutes, so let's just see what your "point" was:

quote:
Originally posted by Tranceporter99
I don't care if I get flamed. The right to own guns is the second most important part of the bill of rights.



quote:
Originally posted by Tranceporter99
"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in Government."

Thomas Jefferson


Several reasons. Not the least of which is mentioned in the above quote. Do you think the American Revolution would have been possible were it not for personal gun ownership? I am not saying a second American Revolution will happen, but its a possibility. The United States is special in the ease and peaceful transfer of power every 4-8 years, but that doesn't mean it will always be that way. Also, personal defense is an absolutely inalienable right for humanity.


For someone who's such a die-hard advocate of understanding "context", you really seem to fail to note the context in which Jefferson made the above statement. This isn't 1776, and we aren't trying to escape militant oppression. Second, my idea of personal defense is making sure that no one can shoot me.

Moving on...

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Originally posted by Tranceporter99
maybe, but the point of the second amendment was clear. " The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it."
--Thomas Jefferson.

And to be quite honest, look at how well our "tanks and missles" have done in Iraq. A determined armed militia is as effective as a large military force when used properly.


Again with a Jefferson quote taken completely out of context and just assumed to still be relevant. Jefferson was referring to government taking away the right of individuals to purchase and own weapons without the consensus of the population - not a democratic decision to remove gun rights.

I'd really also like to see you flesh out how the Iraq analogy is even remotely relevant to this discussion - or how it is at all analogous to the democratic decision to remove gun rights.

Which brings us right back to this....

quote:
Originally posted by Tranceporter99
To own firearms including shotguns, handguns, assault rifles, etc. IEDs are "improvised explosive devices" retard. Make another thread about what happens if their were to be a violent revolution in America and then we can discuss tactics or what I would do. You avoided the entire point of my post. When you criticize someones post, for it to be legitimate, you have to include the entire post, not one part that can be taken out of context to suit your needs. Nice try Keith Olbermann.


Agai, you never had a point to begin with, certainly not one that rested on any kind of legitimate information, nor one that was considered in the context of the modern world.

Simply put, your participation in this thread has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are of the same close-minded, paranoid, and completely clueless stock as the bulk of others still championing gun rights in this country without even thinking about how irrelevant something like the second amendment has become.

You should stay in the kiddie pool with the rest of the children playing fast and loose. Some people actually think about these things beyond knee-jerk reactions and stock responses.
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