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Electric Daisy Carnival 2011 @ Las Vegas Motor Speedway June 24th - 26th (pg. 61)
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| msilin |
| quote: | Originally posted by darthseph
Not in mine. I, for one, don't like the headliners and didn't like the lineup at Beyond Wonderland. It did nothing for me.
TAO was "meh" at best outside of two artists for me. I went to do something for New Years with some friends, and that was my primary reason for going, since San Diego was pretty devoid of things I wanted to do at all when TAO was occurring.
Monster Massive... well that was a joke of a lineup and didn't pull any interest from me at all.
Ultra... I can say again I'm not a fan. There are a few names on a few stages that interest me, but the overall lineup these past two years is more biased than I care for.
My fear is that after a fairly stellar lineup last year, this year will be filled with styles I don't like. That's what I'm afraid of the lineup, because most of the past year's worth of music has been to me. I hate the current crazy house movement outside of Afrojack and Luke and Axwell (not the SHM stuff, his own stuff.) I really don't like Electro and I hate dubstep. They've said nothing of other lineups on other stages. That worries me, and I feel that worry is heavily warranted in that I'm not liking a lot of what's coming out. |
Dude honestly if you didn't like the BW, TAO, MM, and Ultra line-ups then you shouldn't go to any major EDM festival. What do you think EDC could possibly have that Ultra didn't? I mean, yes, it will have a slightly different line-up but the general vibe will surely be the same.
I don't get all the bitching here. Just get a 3 day pass and go to the days you want. You know what it's gonna be, and that Facebook page has a whole bunch of confirmed acts. Don't keep pretending you think some sort of underground artist will come and get a mainstage spot or something; it's just not going to happen. This will appeal to the masses, and I am not afraid to admit that I like the mainstream. I'm down to see Tiesto, SHM, Afrojack, Sander van Doorn, Ferry Corsten, etc. If you're not, then don't go to EDC and stop complaining. They're going to make a load of money with or without you, it may be somewhat unfortunate but it's the truth. |
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| Cool1g |
| quote: | Originally posted by msilin
Dude honestly if you didn't like the BW, TAO, MM, and Ultra line-ups then you shouldn't go to any major EDM festival. What do you think EDC could possibly have that Ultra didn't? I mean, yes, it will have a slightly different line-up but the general vibe will surely be the same.
I don't get all the bitching here. Just get a 3 day pass and go to the days you want. You know what it's gonna be, and that Facebook page has a whole bunch of confirmed acts. Don't keep pretending you think some sort of underground artist will come and get a mainstage spot or something; it's just not going to happen. This will appeal to the masses, and I am not afraid to admit that I like the mainstream. I'm down to see Tiesto, SHM, Afrojack, Sander van Doorn, Ferry Corsten, etc. If you're not, then don't go to EDC and stop complaining. They're going to make a load of money with or without you, it may be somewhat unfortunate but it's the truth. |
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if you didn't like the lineup the past year of any of those parties, i don't see EDC 2011 changing in a big way... |
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| Apeattack |
| quote: | Originally posted by msilin
Dude honestly if you didn't like the BW, TAO, MM, and Ultra line-ups then you shouldn't go to any major EDM festival. |
So you have loved the lineups of all these festivals every year? Enough to pay $180 + much more in transportation and hotel costs?
I remember a lot of TA's complaining about the EDC lineups and setup last year. A lot of people seem to have forgotten the clusterf*ck lines, flow issues into/out of the Coliseum, lack of bathrooms on the Coliseum floor, overselling the venue, etc.
| quote: | | I mean, yes, it will have a slightly different line-up but the general vibe will surely be the same. |
A major reason I go to these events is the general vibe and I'm sure the production values will be awesome. However, EDC has had a number of problems over the past couple years too which everyone seems to forget about but should be taken into account when thinking about the 'vibe' of the event.
Do you have faith that these significant issues from the past (and new issues that may come up from hosting the event in a new venue) will be fixed for this year's EDC? It is something everyone should consider.
| quote: | I don't get all the bitching here. Just get a 3 day pass and go to the days you want.
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A lot of us are only interested in one day. The 3-day ticket price is $180, a lot more than the ~$65 for one day last year.
| quote: | | You know what it's gonna be, and that Facebook page has a whole bunch of confirmed acts. |
But which days?
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Don't keep pretending you think some sort of underground artist will come and get a mainstage spot or something; it's just not going to happen. This will appeal to the masses, and I am not afraid to admit that I like the mainstream. I'm down to see Tiesto, SHM, Afrojack, Sander van Doorn, Ferry Corsten, etc. |
It isn't about mainstream vs underground. I love SvD, Ferry Corsten, and other trance-y DJs in the top 20, but I have no interest in hearing highly ranked house-y DJs.
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If you're not, then don't go to EDC and stop complaining. They're going to make a load of money with or without you, it may be somewhat unfortunate but it's the truth. |
If you are OK paying $X for a product that you only have partial information about, that's fine. Others are not fine with it and are unhappy. People complain when they are unhappy. Whether or not EDC makes money is irrelevant.
Personally, I have many fond memories of EDC during the past three years. It definitely outgrew the venue and I understand why they moved to LV, but I dislike having to buy a product on faith, especially since it costs so much more this year compared to previous years.
Have fun though! |
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| Apeattack |
| quote: | Originally posted by mar46017
Is $100.00 up or down in life really gonna make you or break you? |
Applying that philosophy once is fine. Applying that philosophy to all events can be expensive. I have friends who live by that philosophy all the time and have no savings.
And besides, I don't think it is the additional cost that is getting most people riled up. It is the fact that everyone is being asked to pay for a product with only partial information. A lot of people are fine with that, as evidenced by the 40,000 tickets (or whatever the number is) that were sold. Others are not. |
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| Apeattack |
| quote: | Originally posted by henryv
Pretty excited for EDC! Rollcall! |
Haha... I love Henry's positive attitude. |
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| msilin |
| quote: | Originally posted by Apeattack
Applying that philosophy once is fine. Applying that philosophy to all events can be expensive. I have friends who live by that philosophy all the time and have no savings.
And besides, I don't think it is the additional cost that is getting most people riled up. It is the fact that everyone is being asked to pay for a product with only partial information. A lot of people are fine with that, as evidenced by the 40,000 tickets (or whatever the number is) that were sold. Others are not. |
To respond to your response to me:
A lot of your complaints seem to be about the way EDC ran their event, and I agree with you. Not being able to leave the main stage to go the bathroom last year sucked (and may have caused all those hospital visits and death...) but that is nearly impossible to convey to a patron before they come to the event. It's hard for event organizers to predict, for example, that everyone will storm one mainstage instead of splitting up between the two that they set up (that second one where Moby, etc. were was always half-full). I don't know of many concerts/festivals that publish their entire system of letting people in, stages, etc. before they start selling tickets. So unfortunately here we have to hope for the best...
As far as the line-up, I must re-iterate. People know what EDC is all about. They know EDC will have world-class DJs but at the same time try to appease die-hard fans of particular genres (like with the techno stage at BW). The people that bought all those sold-out tickets didn't particularly care about who comes on Saturday. They know it's going to be good, but more importantly they know it's going to be EDC and all that comes with it.
So I'm saying people can complain all day about the line-up but that's not what EDC is selling, essentially. If you want to see a particular DJ, catch them at your favorite club or city. If you want to go to a world-class music festival with a lot of good acts and music, some of which you might know/like, some of which you might not, go to EDC. You know the production values and entertainment will be world-class regardless. And that's also why I'm saying going to one day doesn't make much sense... it's a festival, not a concert. It's an experience, like Coachella. Coachella doesn't even sell one-day tickets anymore, and there's a reason for that. |
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| fantasyexctasy |
| 98% of people that buy a ticket on blind faith are scalpers or go to do drugs. Can I get an amen? |
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| Apeattack |
| quote: | Originally posted by msilin
To respond to your response to me:
A lot of your complaints seem to be about the way EDC ran their event, and I agree with you. Not being able to leave the main stage to go the bathroom last year sucked (and may have caused all those hospital visits and death...) but that is nearly impossible to convey to a patron before they come to the event. It's hard for event organizers to predict, for example, that everyone will storm one mainstage instead of splitting up between the two that they set up (that second one where Moby, etc. were was always half-full). I don't know of many concerts/festivals that publish their entire system of letting people in, stages, etc. before they start selling tickets. So unfortunately here we have to hope for the best...
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I only brought up these problems because most people seem to forget the chaos that accompanies EDC. It is something that I factor into my decision when buying tickets. If I am going to deal with the headache of (sometimes) long lines, poor flow control, etc... I want to be happy with the lineup. I only wanted to go one day, so I was a bit unhappy with not knowing more of the lineup before the tickets were released.
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As far as the line-up, I must re-iterate. People know what EDC is all about. They know EDC will have world-class DJs but at the same time try to appease die-hard fans of particular genres (like with the techno stage at BW). The people that bought all those sold-out tickets didn't particularly care about who comes on Saturday. They know it's going to be good, but more importantly they know it's going to be EDC and all that comes with it.
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As I have said before, many people are OK with buying a partially unknown product because of their past experience and because of the hype surrounding the event... which is totally fine. Insomniac has the right to promote the event any way they choose. The reason some people are complaining is because they require more information before committing to spending a large sum of money. IIRC, in past EDCs Insomniac released more details before ticket prices jumped.
| quote: | | So I'm saying people can complain all day about the line-up but that's not what EDC is selling, essentially. If you want to see a particular DJ, catch them at your favorite club or city. If you want to go to a world-class music festival with a lot of good acts and music, some of which you might know/like, some of which you might not, go to EDC. You know the production values and entertainment will be world-class regardless. And that's also why I'm saying going to one day doesn't make much sense... it's a festival, not a concert. It's an experience, like Coachella. |
Part of the reason people are complaining is because in the past EDC wasn't "an experience" in the same way Coachella is an experience. If this year is a success and Insomniac decides to make EDC a 3-day event next year, there probably will be less complaining because people will be used to the idea of EDC being run this way.
| quote: | | Coachella doesn't even sell one-day tickets anymore, and there's a reason for that. |
Because the people in charge realize that they can make more money selling multi-day tickets. |
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| drEamer |
| quote: | Originally posted by fantasyexctasy
98% of people that buy a ticket on blind faith are scalpers or go to do drugs. Can I get an amen? |
amen! |
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| jonmitz |
| quote: | | So I'm saying people can complain all day about the line-up but that's not what EDC is selling, essentially. If you want to see a particular DJ, catch them at your favorite club or city. If you want to go to a world-class music festival with a lot of good acts and music, some of which you might know/like, some of which you might not, go to EDC. You know the production values and entertainment will be world-class regardless. And that's also why I'm saying going to one day doesn't make much sense... it's a festival, not a concert. It's an experience, like Coachella. |
You are out of your ing mind comparing Coachella and EDC.
I WANT to want to go to EDC, but as much as I can afford it, im not going to go through the whole process of preparing travel and accommodations and requesting vacation time and all that just to have to undo it because the lineup doesn't interest me
I'll eat my words if the lineup is incredible, but for a start I looked up to see if some of my favorites were playing elsewhere, and unfortunately it doesn't look good (for my interests):
Already Booked during EDC dates (some have multiple gigs that weekend, some only have one):
(The entire Glastonbury lineup, lol)
James Zabiela (, almost a deal breaker)
Sub Focus
Pendulum ()
Magnetic Man
Claude VonStroke
Sander Kleneberg
Steve Lawler
Leftfield (damnit)
Chemical Brothers (I don't see them playing at EDC anyways)
STS9 (damnit)
Umek
The Crystal Method
Beardyman
not booked:
Netsky
chase & status
wolfgang (i expect him to be booked)
Pretty Lights (could be a possibility?)
Jack Beats
Riva Starr
Tycho (never going to happen)
The Stanton Warriors
Nero (I would buy tickets right now if they announced him)
Would love to have people look up trance Djs/groups and post which ones have been booked. I don't care enough to do it myself. Also I got sick of looking up dates, I hope I didnt miss any big ones |
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| Maka08 |
| quote: | Originally posted by jonmitz
You are out of your ing mind comparing Coachella and EDC.
I WANT to want to go to EDC, but as much as I can afford it, im not going to go through the whole process of preparing travel and accommodations and requesting vacation time and all that just to have to undo it because the lineup doesn't interest me
I'll eat my words if the lineup is incredible, but for a start I looked up to see if some of my favorites were playing elsewhere, and unfortunately it doesn't look good (for my interests):
Already Booked during EDC dates (some have multiple gigs that weekend, some only have one):
(The entire Glastonbury lineup, lol)
James Zabiela (, almost a deal breaker)
Sub Focus
Pendulum ()
Magnetic Man
Claude VonStroke
Sander Kleneberg
Steve Lawler
Leftfield (damnit)
Chemical Brothers (I don't see them playing at EDC anyways)
STS9 (damnit)
Umek
The Crystal Method
Beardyman
not booked:
Netsky
chase & status
wolfgang (i expect him to be booked)
Pretty Lights (could be a possibility?)
Jack Beats
Riva Starr
Tycho (never going to happen)
Nero (I would buy tickets right now if they announced him)
Would love to have people look up trance Djs/groups and post which ones have been booked. I don't care enough to do it myself. Also I got sick of looking up dates, I hope I didnt miss any big ones |
Wolfgang is playing EDC, he said so on his FB. Never mentioned which day though. |
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| jonmitz |
| quote: | Originally posted by Maka08
Wolfgang is playing EDC, he said so on his FB. Never mentioned which day though. |
Orlando.
e: btw my post concerns EDC LV if it wasn't clear |
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