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| wotyzoid |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Sarah Palin, homecoming queen |
She's HAWT. :crazy: |
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| sean5 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Aside from the fact that "opaque" is probably the opposite of the meaning you meant to convey, this is ridiculous tripe.
She's been the governor of Alaska for less than two years, and before that she was the mayor of a community of 7000 people. If you want to get into an argument about experience as an executive, you'll be on awfully shifty sands considering John McCain has zero years of experience by your barometer and Sarah Palin's is hardly awe-inspiring.
But here's a challenge. If you can find one substantive statement by Sarah Palin on US foreign policy - Iran, Russia and Georgia, Darfur, the War on Terror, Afghanistan, Pakistan, US-Europe relations, I'll eat my shorts and name you the champion of this thread.
You know why? Because you won't find one - people have been looking all day long.
And to ignore Obama's 4 years (let me see if I did this math right.... 2008-2004 = 4, right?) of accomplishments - in the US Senate alone - is just setting yourself up to be hit out of the park.
(hint: google "Lugar and Obama" and see what comes up - a more substantive piece of foreign policy legislation than Sarah Palin, homecoming queen, has ever dreamed of in her sleep) |
googling rezko was enough for me
next, lol
and i was right in using opaque as it means "clouded, muddy" which is how obama is on the issues. the opposite of "clear, lucid, translucent, transparent, unclouded".
maybe you should look it up dumbass |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Originally posted by sean5
googling rezko was enough for me
next, lol |
In other words, you've conceded your point.
If you want to debate why Rezko is an over-blown talking point of the Limbaugh crowd, I'm happy to take that one up as well.
Or would you rather talk about the ongoing ethics investigation in the state of Alaska centered around... Gov. Sarah Palin? |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by sean5
seeing as she's actually been in charge and has run a state where as he's never run anything besides his mouth, i would say she has the upper hand. she's been in politics since 92 at the city and state level. he's been in the senate 2 years and has done nothing. also i should mention that she is not nearly as opaque as obama. unlike him, she can actually take a stance on an issue. |
She has been running the state?and that gives you enough confidence to have her as a VP?doesnt bother you that she is completly clueless about anything that goes on outside of Alaska?doesnt it bother you that she has no understading of foreign policies at all?
I guess those arent the real issues to you,as long as she is pro war,anti gay and anti abortion. |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Originally posted by sean5
googling rezko was enough for me
next, lol
and i was right in using opaque as it means "clouded, muddy" which is how obama is on the issues. the opposite of "clear, lucid, translucent, transparent, unclouded".
maybe you should look it up dumbass |
An opaque object is neither transparent (allowing all light to pass through) nor translucent (allowing some light to pass through). In other words, it is obvious and easy to see. You would say Obama is transparent if you think his true intentions are easily seen through his outward rhetoric, and opaque if they are one and the same. |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
I guess those arent the real issues to you,as long as she is pro war,anti gay and anti abortion. |
Actually, she doesn't know where she stands on the war.
| quote: | Well, maybe Sarah Palin thought the surge was great, or maybe she didn't. It's hard to tell what, if anything, Palin thinks or thought about the surge of troops in Iraq, or the decision to invade Iraq in the first place, for that matter. A clip search doesn't show any substantive comments from Palin about Iraq during her short term as governor of Alaska, in 2007 or 2008, or at any point prior to that. That includes instances when she was specifically asked about the war.
In an interview with Alaska Business Monthly shortly after she took office in 2007, Palin was asked about the upcoming surge. She said she hadn't thought about it. "I've been so focused on state government, I haven't really focused much on the war in Iraq," she said. "I heard on the news about the new deployments, and while I support our president, Condoleezza Rice and the administration, I want to know that we have an exit plan in place; I want assurances that we are doing all we can to keep our troops safe." |
http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/
Exit plan? Is that a withdrawal? But at least she watches the news, eh? |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
I forgot to mention...
(she doesn't believe in evolution) |
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| Fledz |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
I forgot to mention...
(she doesn't believe in evolution) |
Oh lordie, this gets even better :haha: |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
From the GOP thinktank known as The National Review:
| quote: | Here's I fear the worst harm that may be done by this selection. The McCain campaign's slogan is "country first." It's a good slogan, and it aptly describes John McCain, one of the most self-sacrificing, gallant, and honorable men ever to seek the presidency.
But question: If it were your decision, and you were putting your country first, would you put an untested small-town mayor a heartbeat away from the presidency? |
You know what I love best about today? Reading the real fear and disappointment that came from the fingers of the staunchest neo-conservative ideologues in the country in regards to their electoral prospects. |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fledz
Oh lordie, this gets even better :haha: |
http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/...-want.html#more
She also hates polar bears, as you can see from that article.
| quote: | In the lawsuit, filed this month in federal district court in the District of Columbia, Palin argues that the government's move to list polar bears as endangered is not based on sound science, and restricts oil and natural gas development. The Interior Department had put the bears on the list in response to a lawsuit filed by environmental groups, who argued that the bears are being threatened by global warming.
In an interview on the conservative CNN talk show hosted by Glenn Beck earlier this year, Palin said that she was worried that environmentalists are using the Endangered Species Act to block the extraction of oil and gas.
"In fact, the number of polar bears has risen dramatically over the past 30 years," she said. "Our fear (is) that extreme environmentalists will use this tool, the ESA, to eventually curtail or halt the North Slope production of very rich resources that America needs."
But biologists who have studied polar bear populations counter that the facts simply do not support Palin's assertion that polar bear populations are on the rise.
"Polar bear populations have not been increasing for the past 30 years, and that's a well-known fact," said Ian Stirling, an emeritus scientist with Canada's Department of the Environment and an adjunct professor at the University of Alberta in an interview. Stirling has studied polar bears for 37 years -- the longest of anyone. |
I mean, it's a virtual treasure trove of insane and weird things about this pick. And it's only Day 1 - she hasn't even been vetted by the press and the opposition research the DNC will do yet! |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Actually, she doesn't know where she stands on the war.
http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/
Exit plan? Is that a withdrawal? But at least she watches the news, eh? |
wow you guys are really ed then if she gets elected.:(
Isnt her son going to Iraq soon btw? |
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| wotyzoid |
| To be fair, is the creationist thing really that bad to you guys, or is it just some pun? |
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