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so did McCain just blow it? (pg. 151)
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Alex
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Originally posted by Sukhoi29SU
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122...inion#printMode


Good for you, now McCain can say what exactly? That it took Obama a really long time to admit that it worked?

Obama was wise enough to know that entering Iraq in such a grand fashion was a complete mistake. 3000 (or is it more now?) + lives have been lost and so have billions of dollars that could have been used for domestic projects as well as the war in Afghanistan which British Generals are now saying cannot be won outright.
Sukhoi29SU
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Originally posted by Alex
Good for you, now McCain can say what exactly? That it took Obama a really long time to admit that it worked?

Obama was wise enough to know that entering Iraq in such a grand fashion was a complete mistake. 3000 (or is it more now?) + lives have been lost and so have billions of dollars that could have been used for domestic projects as well as the war in Afghanistan which British Generals are now saying cannot be won outright.


you all always reference the lives that have been lost... 3000+.. yeah, ok. How about the ones that have been saved? Do you ever consider that?
nchs09
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Originally posted by Sukhoi29SU
you all always reference the lives that have been lost... 3000+.. yeah, ok. How about the ones that have been saved? Do you ever consider that?
What lives have been saved by attacking iraq:conf:
Alex
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Originally posted by Sukhoi29SU
you all always reference the lives that have been lost... 3000+.. yeah, ok. How about the ones that have been saved? Do you ever consider that?


Who's lives?

You mean all the "collateral" the US military have killed?

Yes I don't blame the US military for this, as they are following orders and innocents are lost in war, obviously.

But they didn't need to be.

This war was managed poorly and the results are only starting to come about and at a snail's pace.

Even daddy Bush knew how to run a war, but given McCain supports Bush Jr.'s style of management, I can't concede the point that this war has helped anyone.
Sukhoi29SU
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Originally posted by nchs09
What lives have been saved by attacking iraq:conf:


http://www.weeklystandard.com/Utili...?idArticle=3889

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Alex
That article sites a UN report that it doesn't name.

On top of that, I agree that Saddam was awful and should have been removed.

Are you telling me the all powerful USA needs 250,000 soldiers to take out one man?

They've changed regimes before without anywhere near that much effort, so I don't see how any of that article shows how the invasion force was needed.

Also, stop googling these articles without reading them, because you'll continue to get served by people like me who actually read them through and do 5 minutes of fact checking.
Sukhoi29SU
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Originally posted by Alex
I can't concede the point that this war has helped anyone.


Well, that's a limitation of yours that, to me, is very sad and unfortunate.
Sukhoi29SU
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Originally posted by Alex


Are you telling me the all powerful USA needs 250,000 soldiers to take out one man?



Please shift your attention to chart in one of my above posts.
nchs09
Ya i am just not gonna waste my time with this guy.
Sukhoi29SU
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Originally posted by nchs09
Ya i am just not gonna waste my time with this guy.


alright, see ya.

Alex
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Originally posted by Sukhoi29SU
Please shift your attention to chart in one of my above posts.


You do realize that there were no terrorists setting off bomb after bomb before there were 250,000 soldiers in Iraq right?
Sukhoi29SU
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Originally posted by Alex
You do realize that there were no terrorists setting off bomb after bomb before there were 250,000 soldiers in Iraq right?


Please reference chart in above post
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