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so did McCain just blow it? (pg. 37)
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| MeLLyMeL |
| quote: | Originally posted by spacechica
maybe i'm skeptical of politicians' language- of course i understand that Gov. Huckabee means to support Sen. McCain (after all, he is part of the Republican Party, right?) but it came off with the imagery that Sen. McCain can't lift his arms over his shoulders... it seems like there was a hidden message... |
it's not imagery - it's literally.
he literally can not lift his hands over his head. |
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| UWM |
| quote: | Originally posted by spacechica
maybe i'm skeptical of politicians' language- of course i understand that Gov. Huckabee means to support Sen. McCain (after all, he is part of the Republican Party, right?) but it came off with the imagery that Sen. McCain can't lift his arms over his shoulders... it seems like there was a hidden message... |
Run along now.
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| quote: | Originally posted by spacechica
i think Palin will make Biden pee his pants and cry silently to himself in a corner :) it's about love for the country and if you've got it, you've got it, and if you don't, well you have to get tough and mean and angry... |
You really have absolutely no idea what you're writing about, do you? |
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| Ted Promo |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
I'm just sad HST isn't around to comment on this whole rigamarole - this seems like it would have been brilliant fodder for him.
I've been on a rampant HST binge the past month and it's scary to read the stuff he wrote in 88 about Biden's presidential bid - and how eerily similar the tone he took then seems to map onto how I feel about the current election.
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High School Titties?
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Edit: Babies come out of vagina's unless it's a c-section or an abortion.
Edit 2: Wait, scratch abortions from that last edit. |
washley? |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Originally posted by MeLLyMeL
Well if i'm wrong tell me. I don't have a major problem with this. I just think he helped fund those low income houses and with tax payer money. Lots of it. :\
This isn't the main reason why I *generally* vote republican. I'm sorry but yes I am a one stance above the rest, voter. I know it's bad. I'll admit it! Even my dad may be voting on the other side so that's why I'm not too sure about Florida. ;\ |
What?!? You obviously have no conception of what a social worker is. They work for pennies for an independent non-governmental organization to foster change within the community. They hold town hall meetings, organize fundraisers, lobby politicians to invest money in infrastructure development, and attempt to create a grassroots organization system to affect real change in local communities.
Nothing to do with propping up low income houses with public taxes. That would be what a Mayor (cough, Sarah Palin, cough) does.
| quote: | Obama, only 24, struck board members as "awesome" and "extremely impressive," and they quickly hired him, at $13,000 a year, plus $2,000 for a car--a beat-up blue Honda Civic, which Obama drove for the next three years organizing more than twenty congregations to change their neighborhoods.
Despite some meaningful victories, the work of Obama--and hundreds of other organizers--did not transform the South Side or restore lost industries. But it did change the young man who became the junior senator from Illinois in 2004, and it provides clues to his worldview as he bids for the Democratic presidential nomination.
"I can't say we didn't make mistakes, that I knew what I was doing," Obama recalled three years ago to a boisterous convention of the still-active DCP. "Sometimes I called a meeting, and nobody showed up. Sometimes preachers said, 'Why should I listen to you?' Sometimes we tried to hold politicians accountable, and they didn't show up. I couldn't tell whether I got more out of it than this neighborhood."
But, he continued, "I grew up to be a man, right here, in this area. It's as a consequence of working with this organization and this community that I found my calling. There was something more than making money and getting a fancy degree. The measure of my life would be public service."
After a transient youth and an earnest search for identity, Obama also found a home--a community with which he continued relationships, a church and a political identity. He honed his talent for listening, learned pragmatic strategy, practiced bringing varied people together and developed a faith in ordinary citizens that still influences his campaign message. He discovered the importance of personal storytelling in politics (and wrote short stories that refined his style).
Later, as a politician, he worked closely with community groups (though not as ardently as another community organizer turned politician, the late Senator Paul Wellstone). As a presidential candidate, he frequently refers to his community organizing, asking supporters to treat his campaign as a social movement in which he is just "an imperfect vessel of your hopes and dreams."
Obama worked as an organizer at a time when Harold Washington's election as mayor stirred his hopes and dreams, as well as those of blacks and progressives in the city. Interviews with people who worked with him during that time elicited few complaints--virtually everyone described him in glowing terms, including dedicated, hard-working, dependable, intelligent, inspiring, a good listener, confident but self-effacing. They expressed admiration for him as an organizer who trained strong community leaders while keeping himself in the background and as a strategist who could turn general problems into specific, winnable issues. Loretta Augustine-Herron, a member of the DCP board that hired him, remembers him as someone who always followed the high road. "You've got to do it right," she recalls him insisting. "Be open with the issues. Include the community instead of going behind the community's back--and he would include people we didn't like sometimes. You've got to bring people together. If you exclude people, you're only weakening yourself. If you meet behind doors and make decisions for them, they'll never take ownership of the issue."
Obama worked in the organizing tradition of Saul Alinsky, who made Chicago the birthplace of modern community organizing, as translated through the Gamaliel Foundation, one of several networks of faith-based organizing. Often by confronting officials with insistent citizens--rather than exploiting personal connections, as traditional black Democrats proposed--Obama and DCP protected community interests regarding landfills and helped win employment training services, playgrounds, after-school programs, school reforms and other public amenities.
One day a resident at Altgeld Gardens, a geographically isolated public housing project surrounded by waste sites, brought a notice about planned removal of asbestos from the project manager's office. Obama organized the community to find out if there was asbestos in their apartments. They persisted as officials lied and delayed, then took a bus--with far fewer people than Obama had anticipated--to challenge authorities downtown. Ultimately, the city was forced to test all the apartments and eventually begin cleaning them up.
In his autobiography, Dreams From My Father, Obama writes that the bus trip changed him in a fundamental way, "because it hints at what might be possible and therefore spurs you on.... That bus ride kept me going, I think. Maybe it still does."
A recent Los Angeles Times report contended that Obama overstated his own importance, ignoring others who were working on environmental issues; but in the book he's extremely modest about his role and accomplishments, much as he was as an organizer when he refused fellow organizers' suggestions that he embellish the group's achievements. "There was no campaign without Barack," Kellman says. "He was there to get people to organize when they wouldn't organize at all." Hazel Johnson, a longtime Altgeld Gardens environmental activist, says, "Yeah, he's a good organizer. I've got to give it to him." |
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070416/moberg
The defamation in this thread is out of control. |
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| UWM |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
I'm just sad HST isn't around to comment on this whole rigamarole - this seems like it would have been brilliant fodder for him.
I've been on a rampant HST binge the past month and it's scary to read the stuff he wrote in 88 about Biden's presidential bid - and how eerily similar the tone he took then seems to map onto how I feel about the current election.
Edit: Babies come out of vagina's unless it's a c-section or an abortion.
Edit 2: Wait, scratch abortions from that last edit. |
Yeah, silly. You don't call them a baby after an abortion. You call them breakfast!
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| spacechica |
all right, i understand, but Gov. Huckabee could have used better words to support Sen. McCain- i mean, he's trying to strengthen the anxiety in people's minds about whether Sen. McCain is physically able to perform the job well, and that leads to alot of people's doubts about whether McCain/ Palin is a strong combination... however, after hearing Gov. Palin's speech tonight, i am very confident that she's strong and principled and just what America needs
:)
| quote: | Originally posted by MeLLyMeL
it's not imagery - it's literally.
he literally can not lift his hands over his head. |
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| Ted Promo |
| quote: | Originally posted by UWM
Yeah, silly. You don't call them a baby after an abortion. You call them breakfast!
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...or rapefast?
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| UWM |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ted Promo
...or rapefast?
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I would totally high-five you right now if I could.
I'd even throw in an Ed McMahon-esque "Heyyyyyo!"
I'd call Ed and ask him to do it, but I don't think he has a house phone anymore. :/ |
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| Ted Promo |
| quote: | Originally posted by spacechica
he's trying to strengthen the hesitance in people's minds
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Oh you. |
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| amit |
"there are people who use change to promote there careers...then theres john mccain uses careers to promote change."
PUNCH LINE!!!! UPPER CUT!! |
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| Krypton |
| I would have never imagined mel as a Repub..:p |
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| UWM |
| quote: | Originally posted by spacechica
all right, i understand, but Gov. Huckabee could have used better words
to support Sen. McCain- i mean, he's trying to strengthen the anxiety in people's minds about whether Sen. McCain is physically able to perform the job well, and that leads to alot of people's doubts about whether McCain/ Palin is a strong combination... however, after hearing Gov. Palin's speech tonight, i am very confident that she's strong and principled and just what America needs
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Are you also aware that there are people who are employed as speech writers? |
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