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so did McCain just blow it? (pg. 48)
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
In other words, the Obama campaign will fall into the trap of having the top of its ticket get into a debate with the bottom of the GOP ticket. |
Funny, I don't see Plouffe's name on the ticket - it says Obama/Biden.
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
In other words … Mom! Mom! Sister hit me back! After constantly referring to the governor as the “mayor of Wasilly“, Obama has no room to talk about negative and cynical. |
Source for "mayor of Wasilly" comments?
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
Well, no, they mocked the notion that that experience somehow trumps being a mayor. You see, mayors get held accountable for their policies and their ability to remain in touch. Palin managed to do so well that she got re-elected, and then elected Governor.
By the way, which of the two has actually risked their career to reform the system to kick out-of-touch politicians out of the system? Barack Obama played along with the Daley machine in Chicago. Palin fought her own party to end corruption in Alaska. Which one is the friend of out-of-touch politicians? |
It does trump being a mayor of a town of 6000 in Alaska of all places (she certainly isn't accountable to the general populous of the nation) - and your assertion that Palin is fighting corruption is laughable considering she's under investigation for corrupt political practices in Alaska right now.
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
You know, it’s funny, but nowhere in this e-mail does Plouffe (or his flunky who wrote this, more likely) ever actually identify a single lie in either speech last night. They complain about Giuliani and Palin making fun of Obama, which they certainly did, but never do they refute one factual statement they made. Plouffe et al just like calling Palin a liar — while their allies keep spinning myths about her political affiliation, the maternity of her last child, her marital fidelity, and her ability to manage her family.
Mom! Mom! Sister hit me back … and she hits too hard for a girl! |
None of those came from the Obama campaign, sorry. Nice try.
Unless of course you refer to the blogosphere as Obama allies - but to anyone with half a clue it's clear how little the actual campaign wants to do with any of that.
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
*As for Rudi, where's the distortion? Obama DID only vote "present" intead of a yes or a no 130 times while in the state senate. He was also 100% accurate saying Obama's never run a state, a city, a military unit and never had to lead people in crisis. It is 100% true that he is the least experienced politician to run for president in 100 years. And he said "no legislation to really speak of" meaning if he did co-sponsor something with Coburn or Lugar, it wasn't anything major worth speaking about (one was a bill in the Secure Fence Act that supported a threat reduction concept to conventional weapons, and the other one authorized the establishment of a web search engine called usaspending.gov).
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You have got to be ing kidding me - first of all, why is a "present" vote a bad thing? And how is it 100% true that he is the least experienced politician to run for president in 100 years? When did Palin run a military unit? How on earth do you think someone who was the mayor of a town of 6000 and Governor of Alaska (for two years no less) is in touch with the needs of the rest of the nation? How is someone who vehemently supports the AIP in touch the the rest of the U.S.?
Everything you just spent hours meticulously crafting in your little response here is either based on half truths or outright lies. You really aren't remotely intelligent enough to engage in these kinds of conversations, I really don't know why you even try. You dodge the real concerns incredibly well, and spin the ones you can't in ludicrous fashion - it's no wonder you're a ing Republican.
You personify their failed attempts at manipulative idiocy. I can only hope that my faith that at least 50% of the population is more intelligent than you holds true this November. |
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| Zild |
| I love how Palin don't understand what happens when you have sex, or what condoms are for. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
I love how Palin don't understand what happens when you have sex, or what condoms are for. |
Huh? |
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| Groundhog Boy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
I love how Palin don't understand what happens when you have sex, or what condoms are for. |
Considering her breeding habits, it looks like she completely understands what happens when you have sex.
I wish all American families were that big, so all these morons who happen to be rural, small-town folk would realize what happens if we all breed like rats. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
I wish all American families were that big, so all these morons who happen to be rural, small-town folk would realize what happens if we all breed like rats. |
What happens when people "breed like rats?" |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | | Originally posted by RJT |
| quote: | | Funny, I don't see Plouffe's name on the ticket - it says Obama/Biden. |
what the?? What's your point? He made a stupidly defensive statement, and I provided retorts for them.
| quote: | | Source for "mayor of Wasilly" comments? |
Am I supposed to provide a ing source for every single thing I hear? Are you going to grade my posts on APA style referencing formats? I guess if I don't provide one, it's just a total fabrication.
| quote: | | It does trump being a mayor of a town of 6000 in Alaska of all places (she certainly isn't accountable to the general populous of the nation) - and your assertion that Palin is fighting corruption is laughable considering she's under investigation for corrupt political practices in Alaska right now. |
Actually, it does trump being a "community organizer." What do they do? How does one apply for that job? What are their responsibilities? How are they held accountable for their decisions? It is the biggest ing joke of a "job" that is good presidential preparation, and the more it gets brought up, the dumber it makes Obama's proponents look as they scramble to figure out how to explain it's job description. Palin being "under investigation" is weak... it's already been discussed that the trooper she fired ing tasered his own 10 year old son and threatened to kill her family, AND drank beer in his patrol car... all of which merit being fired, and all of which were uncovered be an independant investigation. But it's NOT speculation that she reformed corruption in Alaska's govt, within her own party for christ's sake.
| quote: | | You have got to be ing kidding me - first of all, why is a "present" vote a bad thing? And how is it 100% true that he is the least experienced politician to run for president in 100 years? When did Palin run a military unit? How on earth do you think someone who was the mayor of a town of 6000 and Governor of Alaska (for two years no less) is in touch with the needs of the rest of the nation? How is someone who vehemently supports the AIP in touch the the rest of the U.S.? |
Vehemently supports?? HAHAHA!!! do your ing research. Follow up on stories. Here is the link showing that information is totally false---> http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalp...rs-of-frin.html
And here is a PDF file as proof that she has been a registered republican her whole life. Jesus man what ing publications are you reading? http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalp...rs-of-frin.html
A present vote is a bad thing when it's done 130 times as a state senator, because it ing demonstrates you don't have the balls to take a side and make a decision. It's just hedge betting. How is it false that he's less qualified to be president than anyone in the last 100 years is a better question. And don't give me that community organizer bull again. Palin is directly in chrage of the Alaska Nation Guard... considered a military unit.
| quote: | | Everything you just spent hours meticulously crafting in your little response here is either based on half truths or outright lies. You really aren't remotely intelligent enough to engage in these kinds of conversations, I really don't know why you even try. You dodge the real concerns incredibly well, and spin the ones you can't in ludicrous fashion - it's no wonder you're a ing Republican. |
Hours? took me 5 minutes. Where are the lies? Tell me. Your continual insistance on insulting and name calling, while acting superior is supposed to show me up that YOU are the intelligent one? You are the one who can't handle criticism, and it's blatantly obvious by your bitter, angry responses. It's no wonder why you're a democrat... you hate criticism and lash out at others who don't agree with your pessimistic hate mongering.
| quote: | | You personify their failed attempts at manipulative idiocy. I can only hope that my faith that at least 50% of the population is more intelligent than you holds true this November. |
You personify the typical uninformed, ignorant angry and bitter democrat that sees the first bit of information he reads and runs with it. You sound like Joe Biden telling that reporter than he guarnateed he has a higher IQ than he does. I'll be happy to stack up my intellectual credentials with your sorry ass any day. |
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| The17sss |
| by the way, i just saw your myspace page, you bald . A bachelor's degree from U of Wisconson, studied sociology (one step above basket weaving) and psychology. wow dude, i bow down to your intelligence:stongue: |
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| Zild |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
by the way, i just saw your myspace page, you bald . A bachelor's degree from U of Wisconson, studied sociology (one step above basket weaving) and psychology. wow dude, i bow down to your intelligence:stongue: |
Is basket weaving one step above journalism? Or an order of magnitude? |
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| Zild |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Huh? |
Where is that, "it's a vagina not a clown car" pic when you need it. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
I like how people around here love bashing on other people's formal education and giving big ups to their own. I've done a crappy job of college and haven't yet graduated after five years at a fairly unremarkable school in an easy major, but I think most here would agree that I can kick plenty of people's asses in serious debate.
What the does a diploma prove again?
Concentrate on the substance for once, not the letters next to a person's name. |
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