to answer your question jay they weren't doing anything. the people you see getting taken by grab teams were usually the ones up right near the front just yelling asking why. i got there around 2pm and they were doing nothing. it was completely insane by the cops.
i cant really speak towards near the downtown area, i agree those black block kids are ing retarded.
i just uploaded some videos from my iphone, not sure why its HD though lol
The Black Bloc has gained alot of publicity in the past two years. What people dont understand is that the Black Bloc is not an organization or a group. It is a tactic. It helps reinforce security and execute our goal in the presence of high-profile demonstrations. From Seattle WTO to the most recent action in Genoa, the Black Bloc has certainly been the main focus by the media and the police in major demonstrations. Therefore, it is necessary to introduce newer and better tactics into the struggle. Be creative. Build off the info on this site and never give up.
Jayx1
quote:
Originally posted by VDub
I told him the only thing I'm guilty of is waisting my tax dollars on his undercover training...
bahahaha narcs are so obvious sometimes. Its hilarious!
VDub
quote:
Originally posted by E2EK1EL
The Black Bloc has gained alot of publicity in the past two years. What people dont understand is that the Black Bloc is not an organization or a group. It is a tactic. It helps reinforce security and execute our goal in the presence of high-profile demonstrations. From Seattle WTO to the most recent action in Genoa, the Black Bloc has certainly been the main focus by the media and the police in major demonstrations. Therefore, it is necessary to introduce newer and better tactics into the struggle. Be creative. Build off the info on this site and never give up.
Sometime's I think that you're endorsing this "tactic"...
VDub
quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
bahahaha narcs are so obvious sometimes. Its hilarious!
I just texted my buddy who's on the prisoner center detail and told him how pitiful his undercover buddies were and he just replied with lol...
Originally posted by Jayx1
if the cops are free to film the public, the public has the right to film the police.
Its always like that. Its always one sided.
I would love to see an actual revolt against Governments and Corporations ruining everyones lives. Would the small people win, probably not. Seeing the Government would force the military to kill their friends and family and most people in the military would, seeing they have no brain.
:o
No matter what kind of political system is in place no one is free.
Freedom is a myth. A wacky idea just like religion. Reason I say that, seeing their is laws set in place what defines freedom from a government point of view, that we are suppose to follow.
Abercrombie
quote:
Originally posted by Nick Cenik
ing hell...
Looks to me the cops targeted specific individuals to lunge after, not random people. Good for them in weeding out the s that suppress the positive messages of the peaceful ones.
Abercrombie
THANK GOD the fashion police are doing a fine job. Thank you cops for removing this hideousness from our streets.
StereoPrincess
did anyone see the interview with the CityTV producer that was arrested? for nothing.
they also had an interview with some girl from cleveland who was detained for 19 hours in the detention centre. she said it was cold and uncomfortable. i guess she was expecting plush bed in the hilton and a 4 star meal.
cammaxwell
I was actually right down there at Queen and John getting some ink done at New Tribe yesterday afternoon. We went out to watch the protesters go by and everything was pretty quiet, although down every side street was a huge group of riot police to stop them going south. Then at one point we saw a bunch of people running up through the crowd (mostly wearing black) which triggered media to run after them. These are the guys that first tried to beak through the line there at John. It got pretty heated but they weren't able to break through. It also seemed that these guys in black were trying to steer the peaceful protesters south to join them, which wasn't really working. They were definitely trying to use "mob mentality" to get people with them.
So the protesters continued west to Spadina and we went back inside. We could see on the TV that they tried to break the line down there too. But then all hell started to break loose, kinda started with that first police car being smashed. Then we could see on tv that the black dressed guys were coming back down Queen. So we went back out to watch. We saw them smashing windows, dragging postal boxes out onto the street and that sorta stuff. Although there were lots of police around, they didn't make any attempt to stop them. It did also seem to be the same 5-6 guys doing most of the damage when we were there at least. I also saw a couple of them smash a window, then dart down a alley or store front to change quickly. My car was parked just north of Queen so at this point I decided to leave and not risk my car being smashed, but it was pretty intense. As I walked to my car, which was just up from the Scotia Bank they were going nuts on the banks windows. Again, many police officers just standing there watching and doing nothing.
I know the news said after that the police were waiting to re-grouo after that group spilt off from the main protesters, but there was a LOT of cops everywhere and I really felt like they could have done more to stop the damage to property. It was only a select few doing most of it and they could have easily arrested them.
Stilez
This pretty much sums up exactly how I feel & what I think of this entir charade:
quote:
May Toronto's G20 be the last | John Hilary
John Hilary
guardian.co.uk Comment Sun 27 Jun 2010 14:58 BST
It's not just the $1bn policing; the failure to tackle the financial crisis or climate change exposes a forum without credibility
To a foreigner, the Canadian police are a confusing bunch. With Toronto locked down for the G20 summit, several of them have been cycling around the deserted streets on mountain bikes presenting what we would see as the very picture of community policing. Yet side by side with this benign image is an intimidating, militarised presence that many Canadians feel has been deliberately cultivated in order to undermine their right to protest against the G20 and its damaging impacts.
The security operation on the streets of Toronto has provided Canadians with the greatest single talking point of the G20 gathering this weekend. Many locals are furious at the $1bn price tag for policing a summit which they never wanted to host in the first place. As John Clarke of the Ontario Coalition Against Poverty pointed out, that same money could have paid for five years of the provincial food supplement programme that has just been scrapped in the latest round of austerity cuts.
The high level of militarisation that has been witnessed over the past couple of days has also been a major talking point, as Canadians are not accustomed to seeing such weaponry being so openly paraded at civil demonstrations. One small protest against poverty and homelessness in Toronto itself was quickly surrounded by vast numbers of police in full riot gear, including mounted police. More chilling still was the visible presence of heavily armed officers touting tear gas rifles and other firearms; police have also confirmed firing plastic bullets and pepper spray capsules at demonstrators on Saturday night.
Many Canadians have become suspicious of police tactics since the Quebec police force admitted that it had disguised three of its own officers as rock-wielding anarchists in an attempt to provoke violence at a peaceful protest in the town of Montebello two years ago. Somewhat farcically, the three were exposed as agents provocateurs when they were found to be wearing official issue police boots identical to those of the uniformed officers "arresting" them.
There are concerns that similar skulduggery may have played a part in Toronto this weekend, where the burning of three police cars quickly became the defining image of Saturday's otherwise peaceful demonstration. Questions are being asked as to why the police chose to drive the vehicles into the middle of a group of protesters and then abandon them, and why there was no attempt to put out the flames until the nation's media had been given time to record the scenes for broadcast around the world.
The fact that so much attention has been directed towards the policing is largely due to the lack of anything newsworthy coming out of the summit itself. Even David Cameron, attending for the first time as British prime minister, published his own desperate plea in the Canadian press this week for summits to be turned into something more than the hot air and photo opportunities they have been in the past. (How this relates to his stated intention to take time out to watch the second half of the England v Germany game with Angela Merkel was not made clear.)
As an invitation-only club whose membership was literally drawn up on the back of an envelope, the G20 never laid any claim to legitimacy. Now it is also in danger of losing any credibility as a forum for global economic governance. Its failure to address any of the structural problems that caused the financial and economic crises of the past three years has certainly not gone unnoticed in Toronto, let alone its complete refusal to deal with the challenge of climate change.
Unbelievably, the G20 is scheduled to hold its next summit in just a few months. If the Canadian experience has taught us anything, it is that such meetings are simply not worth the candle. There are more than enough forums already available for national leaders to discuss the key issues of our time, and almost every one of them has a greater claim to openness and inclusivity than the G20. Now is the time to end the charade of these summits once and for all.
