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G20 Happenings Thread... (pg. 59)
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| The Highroller |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
I think you need to learn a little more about canadian law |
I think you need to understand that you are on my ignore list for a reason. ;) |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by The Highroller
The police were picking people off the street arbitrarily.
Just because the world leaders are in town, doesn't mean our chartered rights disappear.
The police and their supporters can justify it in whatever way they want, but the police clearly violated these chartered rights this weekend, and those responsible for these violations should be accountable to them. |
and the protesters clearly violated the Criminal Code of Canada...so what is your point |
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| StereoPrincess |
| quote: | Originally posted by The Highroller
The police were picking people off the street arbitrarily.
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but how do you know it's was arbitrary? |
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| The Highroller |
| quote: | Originally posted by StereoPrincess
it is a detention centre, did people really expect the ing hilton? |
My sympathy for criminals in the detention center is low, but for the unacceptably high amount of innocent people in there, they shouldn't have had to deal with these conditions.
| quote: | | also, there were 900 people there. of course it's difficult to process that many people. give them a phone call, give them water, give them food. and you got a bunch of lively protesters probably cheering and yelling for the entire 30 hours. |
Many of those people shouldn't have been arrested in the first place. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by The Highroller
I think you need to understand that you are on my ignore list for a reason. ;) |
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| Skipper |
| quote: | Originally posted by The Highroller
No, I wasn't there. But many of the INNOCENT BY-STANDERS (i.e. people who have no reason to remain if the police ask them to disperse - they were not protesters) who were there said the same thing in interviews. They were asked to disperse by each line, but the other line was blocking them. The right hand didn't know what the left hand was doing. |
I think this may account for a large portion of the explanation, as opposed to "the police wanted to detain and terrorize innocent people." There was also the question of why everyone was in the rain for 3 hours, to which the police responded with "we couldn't get buses easily" or something to that effect. This is more of a piss poor planning we spent $1billion concern as opposed to a "we live in the USSR now" concern.
I did not attend any protest this weekend and just have the media to go by, which is biased at best - but from what I can see, there were bad apples on both sides, and the situation escalated to a full blown media frenzy. |
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| The Highroller |
I am bowing out of this discussion to concentrate my energy on voicing my concerns to people who can actually make a difference in this situation. I realize that I shouldn't really care about convincing people on a dance music message board about the clear violations of human rights that went on this weekend.
It is easy for all of you to sit in your arm chairs and talk about the ideology of what transpired this past weekend, but I'd like to see what you'd have to say if you or someone close to you got illegally arrested and got left in a cage for 30 hours. |
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| StereoPrincess |
| quote: | Originally posted by The Highroller
My sympathy for criminals in the detention center is low, but for the unacceptably high amount of innocent people in there, they shouldn't have had to deal with these conditions.
Many of those people shouldn't have been arrested in the first place. |
i think we all have to realize that there are two sides of every story. i understand your side, why don't you admit you understand the other side?
the protesters were willing to sleep outside for the night and walk around in the rain, but when they get detained, they scream bloody murder. how about they think about the very poor people they are trying to help with the protests. those poor people don't get any clean water. they have to send their 5 year old to walk for a day to bring water from a well.
if you don't ask and investigate, how do you know people are innocent? and how do you go around protecting a city without actually doing anything?
who on this site went walking around downtown on saturday afternoon or sunday afternoon where the protests were? |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by StereoPrincess
i think we all have to realize that there are two sides of every story. |
exactly why there should be an independent inquiry into the whole affair which they have refused to do |
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| StereoPrincess |
| quote: | Originally posted by The Highroller
I am bowing out of this discussion to concentrate my energy on voicing my concerns to people who can actually make a difference in this situation. I realize that I shouldn't really care about convincing people on a dance music message board about the clear violations of human rights that went on this weekend.
It is easy for all of you to sit in your arm chairs and talk about the ideology of what transpired this past weekend, but I'd like to see what you'd have to say if you or someone close to you got illegally arrested and got left in a cage for 30 hours. |
and this is exactly why i think your views are biased. but that's ok. do what you need to do.
i would like to see everyone, and how their tune would change if people died in a bombing or died when a moltov cocktail was deployed into the crowd.
i strongly believe that there will be an investigation into what transpired and maybe we can all see both sides of the story. |
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| StereoPrincess |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
exactly why there should be an independent inquiry into the whole affair which they have refused to do |
i think there will be an investigation.
at first it will not be independent. but i think eventually it will come to that. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
exactly why there should be an independent inquiry into the whole affair which they have refused to do |
and as a tax payer do you really want to pay for that....because you know that isn't going to be cheap. |
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