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| FunkyCrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by Endlesswave
What for the general population?? LOL right. I'd like to see them apply that to any woman in my family. |
yeah exactly
honestly? whatever :) idiots who practice that barbaric law can all kill each other, for all I care |
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| Swamper |
It's funny/scary how this is the first I hear of this....
http://movementdefence.org/securityzone
Under the Ontario Public Works Protection Act, the area inside and within 5 metres of the security perimeter (as seen on this map: http://www.g8-g20isu.ca/g20/resources/10-06-11-map.pdf) has been designated as a ‘public work’ from June 21st to 28th, 2010.
This means that police officers have the power to require anyone entering or attempting to enter or approaching the public work “to furnish his or her name and address, to identify himself or herself and to state the purpose for which he or she desires to enter the public work, in writing or otherwise”.
The police may also “search, without warrant, any person entering or attempting to enter a public work”. The police can also search “a vehicle in the charge or under the control of any such person or which has recently been or is suspected of having been in the charge or under the control of any such person or in which any such person is a passenger”.
Finally, the police “may refuse permission to any person to enter a public work and use such force as is necessary to prevent any such person from so entering”
Police may arrest, without warrant “any person who neglects or refuses to comply with a request or direction of a guard or peace officer, or who is found upon or attempting to enter a public work without lawful authority.”
Neglecting or refusing “to comply with a request or direction made under this Act by a guard or peace officer” or if you are a person found upon a public work or any approach thereto without lawful authority means you could be found guilty of an offence and be liable to a fine of not more than $500 or to imprisonment for a term of not more than two months, or to both.
Details of the geographic limitations are here: http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/so...gs_r10233_e.htm
Read the Public Works Protection here: http://www.canlii.org/en/on/laws/st...1990-c-p55.html
Someone has already been arrested apparently - http://vancouver.mediacoop.ca/story...-g20-fence/3767 |
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| Jayx1 |
| LOL @ a commie website crying about their "comrade" being arrested without due process. Oh the irony! |
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| daves |
| quote: | Originally posted by FunkyCrew
no it's precisely conspiracy theories!
forewarned = forearmed in this case
like someone said already - we don't really want London bombings here. |
take a good look at that car and stuff in the picture... seriously London bombings?
okay Toronto, if this is what our terrorists are like, they definitely did NOT need a billion dollars to keep us "secure" |
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| Abercrombie |
| quote: | Originally posted by daves
take a good look at that car and stuff in the picture... seriously London bombings?
okay Toronto, if this is what our terrorists are like, they definitely did NOT need a billion dollars to keep us "secure" |
That guy in the car was nothing... a lot of OOOs and AHHHs but no real substance.
BUT... we did prevent a much bigger terrorist disaster than the London bombings here 2 years ago, so we can't be just relax and believe nothing will happen. We can hope it doesn't, but 2 years ago proved that a terrorist attack can happen here. Not the same group, nor its intensity... not even close, because we're not dealing with the same kind of people. It's still too much money to spend on security, but we can't be wearing blinders either. |
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| Sly_Guy |
don't know it it's posted but this article has boiled my blood a little:
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Police forces in charge of security for the G20 in Toronto have been granted special powers for the duration of the summit.
The new powers took effect Monday and apply only along the border of the G20 security fence that encircles a portion of the downtown core. This so-called red zone includes the Metro Toronto Convention Centre, where delegates will meet.
The new powers are designed specifically for the G20, CBC's Colin Butler reported Friday.
Ontario's cabinet quietly passed the new rules on June 2 without legislature debate.
Sgt. Tim Burrows of the G8/G20 Integrated Security Unit said the new regulations make parts of the existing Public Works Protection Act apply to the G20 security zone in downtown Toronto.
"The public has nothing to fear with this legislation and the way the police will use this legislation," said Burrows. "It really comes down to a case of common sense and officer discretion. If you're approaching that fence line, we want to know why."
The new powers are in effect on the streets and sidewalks in and around the security fence.
Under the new regulations, anyone who comes within five metres of the security area is obliged to give police their name and state the purpose of their visit.
Police, at their discretion, can deny access to the area and "use whatever force is necessary" to keep people out.
Anyone who refuses to identify themselves or refuses to provide a reason for their visit can be fined up to $500.
The new rules also give police the power to search anyone who approaches the fence.
The regulation also says that if someone has a dispute with an officer and it goes to court "the police officer's statement under oath is considered conclusive evidence under the Act."
The new regulations continue through Monday, when the G20 delegates leave town
Burrows said police have already made "two or three" arrests under the new rules as of Friday morning.
"We're bound by duty to protect the people that are going be within that fence line," said Burrows. "If you refuse to tell us [why you're there], then we have to assume that your purposes are not of a peaceful nature."
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| Capo di tutti |
Fear Mongering.
I live, work in the zone.
WAGTHEDOGWAGTHEDOGWAGTHEDOG
There will be arrests, there will be damage, there will be idiots.
It's the ing G20...math is simple... |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sly_Guy
don't know it it's posted but this article has boiled my blood a little:
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if this legislation isnt the slipperly slope to totalitarianism i dont know what is. How many examples do we need to wake up and smell the coffee?
Unreal. This country scares me these days. The police chief is getting a hammering on tv right now about this. I think the media has finally figured it out. Lets hope that broad awareness of the fact that we are quickly losing our rights in canada becomes a net benefit of this summit.
As the reporter told the cop "this legislation puts us in the same league as china and north korea". Yup! |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by Swamper
It's funny/scary how this is the first I hear of this....
http://movementdefence.org/securityzone
Under the Ontario Public Works Protection Act, the area inside and within 5 metres of the security perimeter (as seen on this map: http://www.g8-g20isu.ca/g20/resources/10-06-11-map.pdf) has been designated as a ‘public work’ from June 21st to 28th, 2010.
This means that police officers have the power to require anyone entering or attempting to enter or approaching the public work “to furnish his or her name and address, to identify himself or herself and to state the purpose for which he or she desires to enter the public work, in writing or otherwise”.
The police may also “search, without warrant, any person entering or attempting to enter a public work”. The police can also search “a vehicle in the charge or under the control of any such person or which has recently been or is suspected of having been in the charge or under the control of any such person or in which any such person is a passenger”.
Finally, the police “may refuse permission to any person to enter a public work and use such force as is necessary to prevent any such person from so entering”
Police may arrest, without warrant “any person who neglects or refuses to comply with a request or direction of a guard or peace officer, or who is found upon or attempting to enter a public work without lawful authority.”
Neglecting or refusing “to comply with a request or direction made under this Act by a guard or peace officer” or if you are a person found upon a public work or any approach thereto without lawful authority means you could be found guilty of an offence and be liable to a fine of not more than $500 or to imprisonment for a term of not more than two months, or to both.
Details of the geographic limitations are here: http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/html/so...gs_r10233_e.htm
Read the Public Works Protection here: http://www.canlii.org/en/on/laws/st...1990-c-p55.html
Someone has already been arrested apparently - http://vancouver.mediacoop.ca/story...-g20-fence/3767 |
Damn I was just about to post this.:p this is in bull seriously:whip: |
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| Sly_Guy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
if this legislation isnt the slipperly slope to totalitarianism i dont know what is. How many examples do we need to wake up and smell the coffee?
Unreal. This country scares me these days. The police chief is getting a hammering on tv right now about this. I think the media has finally figured it out. Lets hope that broad awareness of the fact that we are quickly losing our rights in canada becomes a net benefit of this summit.
As the reporter told the cop "this legislation puts us in the same league as china and north korea". Yup! |
I think finally you and I are on the same side of an issue here. But my question is, this law is clearly unconstitutional, how was it even passed? And how can they expect it to hold up in court when it's such an egregious affront to our basic rights as Canadian Citizens? |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
if this legislation isnt the slipperly slope to totalitarianism i dont know what is. How many examples do we need to wake up and smell the coffee?
Unreal. This country scares me these days. The police chief is getting a hammering on tv right now about this. I think the media has finally figured it out. Lets hope that broad awareness of the fact that we are quickly losing our rights in canada becomes a net benefit of this summit.
As the reporter told the cop "this legislation puts us in the same league as china and north korea". Yup! |
AMEN TO THAT!!!! come on people what the Police during this god damn summit is doing isnt right at all and no they are not doing all this to protect you or me. Right now we are no different than China or that that happens in Iran.:o |
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| Sly_Guy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sly_Guy
I think finally you and I are on the same side of an issue here. But my question is, this law is clearly unconstitutional, how was it even passed? And how can they expect it to hold up in court when it's such an egregious affront to our basic rights as Canadian Citizens? |
and the answer to my question: the abuse if a badly worded law in a completely unrelated circumstance:
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The government of Ontario quietly designated the entire G20 security zone as a “public work” nearly a month ago under a little-used act that vastly expands police powers.
The move means anyone entering, or even approaching, a designated area can be searched without a warrant. All the streets inside the security fence in Toronto, where the summit is being hosted, have been temporarily designated under the Public Works Protection Act.
The act usually covers highways and canals used for the transmission of power and other public utilities, which are permanently designated. It also covers public provincial and municipal buildings. It gives “guards” of these sites the ability to demand a visitor’s name and purpose for the visit and to refuse permission to enter, and arrest without warrant.
The temporary designation went into effect June 21, and will be rescinded the day after the summit ends, on June 28. Those found guilty under the act are subject to imprisonment for no longer than two months or a $500 fine.
“It’s a very clever way to expand police powers,” said Nathalie Des Rosiers of the Canadian Civil Liberties Association. The group stated in a press release that it was “very concerned” about the implications of the measure and noted it “dramatically altered” the advice lawyers gave to protesters and the public.
The CCLA believes this is the first time an area has been designated temporarily.
The move was passed June 2 and only appeared on e-laws June 16. It won’t be published in the regular paper format until July 3, after the summits are over.
A spokeswoman for the Ministry of Community Safety says the cabinet passed the law after a request from Toronto Police Chief Bill Blair.
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