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G20 Happenings Thread... (pg. 40)
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| Silky Johnson |
| quote: | Originally posted by Endlesswave
The cops should have done a better job in arresting the real idiots and those destroying property rather than blanket arresting everyone, you're cops, you're trained at doing similar things in your line of work. |
I agree, more people definitely should have got beat. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by Endlesswave
Wrong.
The police should have targeted those that were there to stir up BS. The black bloc anarchists etc, there was a huge group of them, where were the cops when they started torching cop cars or when they went a complete different direction than the peaceful protesters?
They took action too little too late against innocent people.
Grouping all protesters into one category for the sake of 'safety' and convenience trumps our rights as ordinary citizens to protest and voice our opinions?
The moment this happens even once is a travesty for our democracy. |
I would think they were quite pro-active in the arrest of over 70 black bloc members at the university during a raid. |
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| The Highroller |
| Putting all protestors and anyone that might look like a protestor on the same page as the violent criminals as a basis for arrest is not very far off from scouring the internet, tapping phones and using other surveillance methods to find anyone who has something critical to say about the G20 summit and what happened during it and arresting them because they may be violent "black bloc" protestors. It is a slippery slope and a move away from a democratic state into the realm of one that is authoritarian and oppressive. |
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| Endlesswave |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
I would think they were quite pro-active in the arrest of over 70 black bloc members at the university during a raid. |
There were 300...
Also, a lot of people's problem thus far is the innocent people involved, the draconian crack down by the cops against them.
"Oh but it was for the overall good of the people.", BS, it trumps our rights and freedoms and it seems as though a lot of you are almost taking it for granted (Even if for a few days).
JP, ;) |
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| The Highroller |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
I would think they were quite pro-active in the arrest of over 70 black bloc members at the university during a raid. |
This just shows your ignorance about the situation.
1. Black bloc is not a group, it's a violent protesting strategy
2. The only information that we have about the people arrested at the university is that some of them had weapons. None of them have been convicted with anything yet. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by E2EK1EL
I'm suprised the Tamils didn't join in and protest why Canada didn't help them. That cause so much more damage and would justify the 1 billion security price tag. |
if the tamils had been there or the natives there would have been no police attacks. In fact im betting the roads would still be blocked off with protesters.
Double standards? nah!!! coughcaledoniacough |
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| Sly_Guy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Endlesswave
Wrong.
The police should have targeted those that were there to stir up BS. The black bloc anarchists etc, there was a huge group of them, where were the cops when they started torching cop cars or when they went a complete different direction than the peaceful protesters?
They took action too little too late against innocent people.
Grouping all protesters into one category for the sake of 'safety' and convenience trumps our rights as ordinary citizens to protest and voice our opinions?
The moment this happens even once is a travesty for our democracy. |
this is exactly it. The wrong approach was taken. The onus is always on the police to do the right thing in these situations as they are the ones responsible for upholding the law. It might be a difficult job to do, but throwing the law to the wayside in the name of security makes those enforcing no better than those breaking. |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
The people who truly want to try and make change would not have been in that crowd of people. |
Not true. People have every right to protest and that is part of democracy. Who are we to tell all these people to STFU and stay home?
protesting is part of human history and believe it or not their voices do get out.
| quote: | | I would think they would be smart enough to know that no message is getting through to anyone in a situation like that. I'm sorry but the police have to put all these protesters on the same page...for the safety of all citizens. |
The Police need to have been smarter and stopped the violent protestors on Saturday but they were nowhere to be seen while all the looting was happening. Instead they stood by and waited till the next day and arrested everything and anything. |
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| Endlesswave |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sly_Guy
this is exactly it. The wrong approach was taken. The onus is always on the police to do the right thing in these situations as they are the ones responsible for upholding the law. It might be a difficult job to do, but throwing the law to the wayside in the name of security makes those enforcing no better than those breaking. |
That's all I'm saying...
I'm not hardcore either way, it was retarded to even host the damned thing here. |
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| jon jon |
| there is a 5:30pm rally at "Police HQ" w/ Naomi Klein... |
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| Abercrombie |
All it takes is the peaceful protesters to begin chanting the Black Blocs out, and engaging them to stop. They're not going to yell back and punch the peaceful ones in the face.
It's sad the non-vilent protesters tolerated these s in their midst. They share some of the guilt by letting them do their . If a snotty kid next to me pokes a stick at a hornets nest, the bees will go after me too. |
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