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| hardcore trancer |
| The Toronto Police have lost their trust in the public eyes and they have a chance to fix that by showing some respect and honor and prosecute/fire the officers that broke the law last year. |
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| GGM |
I lost my faith in the police way back in highschool so the G20 + doing nothing to rectify their wrongs was no surprise for me.
There's actually tons of great officers out there though. It's a shame they get overshadowed by the many crappy ones and unfortunate that the good officers rarely ever try to hold the bad ones accountable. That would be the next step in progression but probably won't be happening anytime soon. |
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| patpicos |
bout friggin time. However, all he will get is a slap on the wrist.
I still dont understand the whole thing "only leave with pay", ****** doesnt deserve to be paid while put aside |
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| hardcore trancer |
| One arrested 2000 more to go. Let’s not forget that the whole G20 was a huge systematic ing mess and the people from the top are the ones that should be charged. |
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| kotsy |
| quote: | Originally posted by devnull
bout friggin time. However, all he will get is a slap on the wrist.
I still dont understand the whole thing "only leave with pay", ****** doesnt deserve to be paid while put aside |
agreed. a paid leave is basically a vacation.. some punishment!! what a joke |
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| Shaya007 |
| Got to talk to someone that's spent sometime in jail after G20...let's just say half of his teeth are missing now |
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| psyrel |
Went to the "G20: Lessons Learned, Messages Lost" discussion today put on by the CCLA and it was both good and bad. Good in that it was a great turnout with lots of media coverage. Bad because every investigation so far has been small, limited and unable to find out answers to much needed questions like who was in charge and from where and why certain tactics were used over others. We really do need a full public inquiry if we're ever going to get to the bottom of this and ensure it doesn't happen again.
Really stunned to hear that each cop brought in got $3000 - 8000 each day they were in Toronto, including training exercises well before the weekend itself.
Big rally this Saturday, I'll post that info soon. |
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| psyrel |
G20 Redux: Fundamental Freedoms Festival
Saturday, June 25
2 - 3:30 p.m.
Queen's Park
Saturday, June 25, 2011 will mark one year since the G20 Summit in downtown Toronto, the biggest mass arrests in Canadian peace time history and an unprecedented degree of infringement of individual civil liberties and fundamental freedoms. These issues have not been resolved. Much remains to be done to shed light on what really did happen during that fateful summer weekend, why it happened and ensuring that it never happens again.
On June 25, let's REAFFIRM OUR RIGHTS, RE-APPROPRIATE PUBLIC SPACE, and RENEW THE CALL FOR A PUBLIC INQUIRY!
With musical performances by: Dave Borins, Lynn Harrison, Allie Hughes and Tiny Danza.
This event is co-organized by the Canadian Civil Liberties Association (CCLA), Ontario Federation of Labour (OFL), Canadian Federation of Students (CFS) and Council of Canadians (CoC).
MEDIA SPONSORS:
NOW Magazine, Rabble.ca
ENDORSING ORGANIZATIONS:
Canadians Advocating Political Participation (CAPP), Canadian Arab Federation (CAF), Canadian Coalition Against the Death Penalty (CCADP), Canadian Union of Public Employees Ontario (CUPE Ontario), Citizens Engaging Democracy (Newmarket-Aurora), CUPE Local 1281, Canadian Peace Alliance (CPA), Concordia University Television (CUTV), Conscience Canada, Earthroots, Forget The Box Media Collective, Graduate Students Association at the University of Toronto, Greenpeace Canada, Law Union of Ontario, Movement Defence Committee (MDC), Queer Ontario, Ryerson Students Union, Toronto Coalition to Stop the War, Toronto and York Region Labour Council, University of Toronto Mississauga Students' Union (UTMSU), University of Toronto Students' Union (UTSU)
Facebook event |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by psyrel
Big rally this Saturday, I'll post that info soon. |
Oh yes I'll be there 100%.:)
edit: psyrel damn you are fast.:p |
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| GGM |
Funny this thread got bumped today, I just read this. Pretty long but some good reporting and even more lulz...
| quote: | Toronto police were caught off guard and unprepared for what hit them at the G20, according to Chief Bill Blair’s review of policing at the summit.
They were surprised by the Black Bloc, couldn’t handle the number of prisoners they were sending to the temporary detention centre and erred in corralling hundreds of peaceful protesters at Queen St. W. and Spadina Ave.
“Better methods must be developed for extracting individuals posing a threat to public safety from within large crowds,” Blair’s report says in reference to the “kettling” of about 300 protesters, broadcast live on the final day of the summit.
Toronto police have been widely criticized following last June’s meeting of world leaders in the city. They were seen to have seemingly allowed wanton property destruction by a small pack of black-clad vandals, while using heavy-handed tactics against many peaceful protesters in response.
Police arrested more than 1,100 people over the weekend, the largest mass arrest in Canadian history. Most were never charged.
Blair’s 70-page report, released late Thursday, does not explain why so many were arrested, nor does it directly address conditions at the G20 jail on Eastern Ave., which has been sharply criticized for overcrowding and inhumane treatment.
It also makes no mention of the two Toronto police officers who have been charged with assaulting protesters.
The report complains of a lack of planning time, and takes aim at the federal government for its late decision to move the second half of the G8/G20 to Toronto.
“While host cities of some previous G8/G20 summits had two years to prepare,” Toronto police were able to meet security demands in “just six months.”
Regarding Saturday’s events, when a pack of radical anarchists split from the peaceful protest group and began a 90-minute rampage downtown, the report’s blow-by-blow timeline paints a portrait of disorganization and confusion among police, who always seemed a step behind the unpredictable vandals.
Police “lacked the mobility and speed” to respond to the Black Bloc, the report says, so chose not to engage them and instead focused on officer safety. It recommends police develop better strategies to deal with such “dynamic situations.”
Regarding the kettling at Queen and Spadina, Blair says that when using “containment techniques,” police must give law-abiding citizens a route to exit and “a reasonable opportunity to leave the affected area.”
Immediately following the summit, Blair repeatedly told media that everyone inside the kettle was given three clear warnings to disperse — a claim denied by many detained at the intersection.
On Wednesday, the Star reported police will never again use the kettling technique, as it was employed at Queen and Spadina.
The report does not address the allegations of inhumane treatment at the Eastern Ave. detention centre, but explains that the jail was in such organizational disarray that “countless items of potential evidence” were also returned to prisoners upon their release. Some prisoners were released without their property.
There was no system to keep track of when prisoners had been fed, whether they had received a phone call or had access to lawyers. By the end of the summit, police released prisoners en masse, rather than individually, which also goes against standard policies.
Blair appears to admit his officers may have been too heavy-handed in their treatment of protesters.
“Crowd behaviour is influenced in part by the type and manner of police deployment,” the report states. “Premature displays of real or implied force can lead to negative crowd reactions that may escalate a situation.”
Initial contact with peaceful protest groups “should be low key and measured.”
Blair concludes by saying police were successful in their mission: to support the RCMP in ensuring the safety and security of G8/G20 delegates.
“At no time was security breached at any of the G20 summit sites.”
G8/G20 policing was coordinated by the Integrated Security Unit, which included the RCMP, OPP and Toronto police. Twenty-six other police forces were also involved in summit security.
However, Toronto police have said all policing within the city and outside the security fence was commanded by Toronto police Staff Supts. Mark Fenton and Hugh Ferguson.
Key report recommendations
• Develop policies and procedures to identify and extract criminal elements without mass containment or “kettling”.
• Review public order training to come up with ways to deal with Black Bloc tactics.
• Develop better plans for large temporary detention centres for future events.
• Improve the flow of intelligence information within the command structure to officers on the ground.
• Prepare and train a team of major event specialists. |
tl;dr police are making lame excuses and admit the obvious facts but won't do anything about it.
My favourite part is even though they spent way more on security than anyone before and imprisoned the downtown core they said they didn't do enough prep... Sure next time we'll wear handcuffs for the week. |
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| Tordan |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Oh yes I'll be there 100%.:)
edit: psyrel damn you are fast.:p |
hope to see you guys there! |
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