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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by The Potter
You do not get more damning than that. If this had been in the UK, heads would have rolled by now. I seem to get the impression that the police here can get away with more, as there is not the same level of accountability enshrined into the law. The rule of law applies as much to the police, as to other members of a civilised society. It is a ed up system if an independent investigation does not have the authority to have the name of the officers revealed. The imbecilic Blair has instructed his men and women to not cooperate with the ombudsman; however, they will answer questions for the police's internal investigation...that's very reassuring :rolleyes: |
Amen!!!
It is about in time for some accountability. The Police seem to think that they are above the law and can get away with their actions during the G20. AS I said a while back this event will not just go away and there will be consequences. I’m glad to see that this matter is getting escalated. Public inquiry is the only way to get to the bottom of this. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Public inquiry is the only way to get to the bottom of this. |
which will never happen |
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| Jayx1 |
Mcguinty has go to go for so many reasons including this one. He looked so nervous and weak when he was commenting on this. He knows what he did and he got caught. Bill Blair needs to resign as does Adam Vaughan who chairs the police services board. (big surprise there). Also certain officers and toronto police executives should face jail time for what they did to the public that day.
Furthermore, this type of activity occurs on a small scale to this day and has for years. Try walking through the entertainment district. Or just be anywhere in this city at night in particular where a cop doesnt think you belong. You get shaken down the exact same way. This has got to stop!
I used to respect the police and their institution. After what I have witnessed and experienced personally AS A LAW ABIDING CITIZEN over the last 5 years I have absolutely no respect for these thugs. NONE. |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
I used to respect the police and their institution. After what I have witnessed and experienced personally AS A LAW ABIDING CITIZEN over the last 5 years I have absolutely no respect for these thugs. NONE. |
This. |
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| Orko |
| I'm calling my MPP and MP tomorrow to yell and demand action. |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by Orko
I'm calling my MPP and MP tomorrow to yell and demand action. |
We should all have been doing this since summer but it is never too late for that. I think now the politicians will have to pay attention to what is happening. |
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| pozz |
| I was at queen's park when the protesters in black were marching. the police tour buses that were blocking them off had "TORONTO POLICE: NOW HIRING" written on the back. |
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| hardcore trancer |
One identified:
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http://www.thestar.com/news/article...20-beating?bn=1
Officers identified in G20 beating
Toronto police say they now know the names of 14 officers who were present or nearby when one of them used a baton to beat a man during this summer’s G20 protests.
Police spokesman Mark Pugash confirmed to the Star this morning that investigators have the officers from video and photos published by the Star this week.
All the names – including that of the officer seen beating protester Adam Nobody – have been forwarded onto the province’s Special Investigations Unit.
Police will not identify the officers publicly because “we do not identify people who have not been charged criminally,” said Pugash.
He declined to say whether supervisors were among the 14 officers identified. “We follow the evidence wherever it goes, irrespective of role or rank,” Pugash said.
He added that all of the officers are still currently on the job.
Two of the officers were previously named by the Star, which published pictures of them with their nametags on.
The SIU will now decide whether criminal charges should be laid.
The provincial agency will also determine whether those officers will considered as witnesses or the subjects of its investigation into allegations of police misconduct.
An internal police investigation is also currently underway to determine whether there were any breaches of discipline, said Pugash.
Penalties for officers will be assessed by looking at circumstances and precedent, but the maximum penalty under the Police Act is loss of employment.
Pugash said information brought forward by citizens and the Star this week was “extremely helpful” in identifying the officers.
“We always expect to work very closely” with the media, he said. “In a huge amount of cases we get information from the public.”
He said that the investigation is not finished and encouraged anybody, media or otherwise, to come forward with new information.
The SIU is a civilian agency that investigates incidents involving police that result in death, serious injury or allegations of sexual assault.
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slowly but surely all of them are being identified. |
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| Sentinal |
there is a police officer that has been in the toronto star the last three days since yesterday pictured with a raised visor, goutee and beating down three different people at queens park on the 26th. he purposely took off his nametake and badge number so identifing him is proving to be difficult.
hope they get this and he gets his ass fired. |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sentinal
there is a police officer that has been in the toronto star the last three days since yesterday pictured with a raised visor, goutee and beating down three different people at queens park on the 26th. he purposely took off his nametake and badge number so identifing him is proving to be difficult.
hope they get this and he gets his ass fired. |
Oh dont worry man there is going to be more and more cops indentified soon. I'm just glad that the G20 is finally beginning to get the much needed attention. |
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| hardcore trancer |
One charged. :) More to come I hope.
http://www.thestar.com/news/toronto...20-beating?bn=1
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Police officer charged in G20 beating
Working with evidence in part supplied by the Toronto Star, investigators have charged an officer with assaulting a protester during the G20 summit.
“There are reasonable grounds to believe that an officer . . . committed a criminal offence in connection with the arrest of Adam Nobody on June 26,” Ian Scott, director of the Special Investigations Unit, said in a release Tuesday.
Const. Babak Andalib-Goortani was charged Tuesday morning with assault with a weapon.
The arrest comes less than a month after Toronto police Chief Bill Blair contended in a radio interview that a video of Nobody being roughed up during G20 demonstrations was “significantly tampered with and fabricated.”
Blair later apologized to Nobody.
The chief’s claim unleashed a flood of citizens’ evidence of the volatile demonstrations during a summit of world leaders that turned downtown Toronto into an armed camp.
First, the SIU declared there were no missing segments in the video of the incident posted by John Bridge on YouTube.
Then, the SIU released photographs of two bystanders recording Nobody’s arrest and asked for their help. The Star provided a second video two days later, on Dec. 9.
The SIU received a third video from a member of the public.
“Through an analysis of the video imagery and additional information gathered during the re-opened investigation, SIU investigators determined that three of the named 15 officers may have caused injuries to Mr. Nobody related to his first allegation of assault,” Scott said.
“Twelve officers were designated as witness officers and interviewed,” but none of the 12 could identify themselves or any other officers in the videos, Scott said.
The other three officers declined to provide a statement, “as is their right,” he said.
“The process of identifying Constable Andalib-Goortani will be part of the case presented at trial.”
Toronto police had little to say following the noon-hour statement from the SIU.
“It’s an ongoing SIU investigation,” Const. Tony Vella told the Star. “We cannot make any comments on ongoing SIU investigations.”
Andalib-Goortani was scheduled to appear in court Jan. 24.
“The SIU would like to thank videographer John Bridge for coming forward and sharing both the manner in which he shot his video, permitting himself to be identified and providing the Unit with his original video footage of the incident,” Scott said.
“The media and other members of the public also played a pivotal role in assisting the investigation.”
The SIU investigates incidents involving police that result in death, serious injury or allegations of sexual assault.
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| The Potter |
| Finally! After hearing Blair ting his pants during a CBC Radio interview around a week ago (he honestly sounded like he was going to have a breakdown), I knew he was finally going to act. However, he still needs to get his ass booted, as he brought such an important office into disrepute. When the commissioner of a police force does not act for the right reasons, namely to uphold the rule of law and to support the judicial process, but only does the correct thing for the selfish reason of preserving his own job, then something is ed up. How can expect the public be expected to do the right thing and report criminal behaviour, when the police themselves do not lead by example? |
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