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G20 Happenings Thread... (pg. 60)
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| Sly_Guy |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
and as a tax payer do you really want to pay for that....because you know that isn't going to be cheap. |
why not? We already spent 23 times the amount on security and saw that it did no good. In for a penny, in for a pound. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by The Highroller
I am bowing out of this discussion to concentrate my energy on voicing my concerns to people who can actually make a difference in this situation. I realize that I shouldn't really care about convincing people on a dance music message board about the clear violations of human rights that went on this weekend.
It is easy for all of you to sit in your arm chairs and talk about the ideology of what transpired this past weekend, but I'd like to see what you'd have to say if you or someone close to you got illegally arrested and got left in a cage for 30 hours. |
Graham....if you are this passionate about it then I think you should voice your concerns to the powers that be. It is obvious that this has hit close to home for you and you are right....discussing it here for you will do nothing to help you get closure to your situation. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
and as a tax payer do you really want to pay for that....because you know that isn't going to be cheap. |
actually yes. This is one thing that would be worth the money. Allegations of attacking innocent people and journalists is a very serious issue in a so called democracy. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by StereoPrincess
i think there will be an investigation.
at first it will not be independent. but i think eventually it will come to that. |
perhaps if the pressure keeps up. But they obviously dont want one! |
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| StereoPrincess |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
perhaps if the pressure keeps up. But they obviously dont want one! |
i didn't read anywhere they right out refused an investigation. source? |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sly_Guy
why not? We already spent 23 times the amount on security and saw that it did no good. In for a penny, in for a pound. |
I didn't say I was against it...I just don't want to here Jay complain when we are introduced with an independent investigation tax.
and don't suggest that security didn't do any good....if there was no security at all I could imagine what the city of toronto would have been like. Compared to previous G20 summits the violence here was minimal. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by StereoPrincess
i didn't read anywhere they right out refused an investigation. source? |
if i can find a written version of bill blair's CP24 interview ill post it. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
I didn't say I was against it...I just don't want to here Jay complain when we are introduced with an independent investigation tax.
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with all the bull we waste money on, this expense would actually be worth while. And im sure we can more than afford a few million dollars for an inquiry into actions that have affected so many people in our free society.
The HST alone should be able to pay for it after one day! |
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| Tordan |
| quote: | Originally posted by FunkyCrew
so out of curiosity, out of everyone arguing with Chem and I, who actually checked out G20 on any of the given days of the past weekend? |
I was at Queen's Park on Saturday evening when the riot police charged and I personally saw people being run over by horses. This was supposed to be the designated safe protest zone. In the two hours I was there not once did I hear or see any soft of warning/communication from the police.
On Sunday I was at Queen and Spadina in the pouring rain watching all those people be arrested and detained for hours. I saw teens balling their eyes out, young women wearing summer dresses and men old enough to be my dad, all waiting in line to be booked and then shoved into waiting paddy wagons. In the arrest line alone the ratio of people to police was 2:1. There was 100 or so more people being corralled by riot cops as I'm sure many of your saw on TV.
I watched as the police did nothing about the black bloc. I watched while police grabbed the guy standing beside me and search his bag without barely uttering two words to him. I watched an older East Indian couple crying as the police stormed Queen's Park and kicked out everyone who was there peacefully. I will not soon forget their screams, "why are you doing this? why are you doing this?"
It's very easy to draw conclusions and speculate on an online forum after sitting at home watching main stream media. A completely different story when you're at ground-level and experience it for yourself. |
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| StereoPrincess |
| i am laughing my ass off reading the articles online about all of this. who writes this crap. |
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| Jayx1 |
PS Tim Hudak has now lost my vote over this matter. |
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