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G20 Happenings Thread... (pg. 69)
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| FunkyCrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
so their job is to lie to us? And you are ok with that? |
of course it's not - taking it out of the context
but if I explain why I think they had to/were told to do it, you'll accuse me of being a commie and we'll be back to square 1 |
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| smuncky |
| so jay, were you there on saturday or sunday? |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by smuncky
so jay, were you there on saturday or sunday? |
hell no but had i known about the anti police brutality demo on monday in advance id have been there.
i dont support the cause of comminists and anti capitalists
It doesnt matter now anyways because bill blair has publicly admitted to lying to us. |
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| Jayx1 |
So the state will give us rights but take them away "for our own good" when necessary. THE STATE MUST HAVE CONTROL, FOR THE GOOD OF SOCIETY OF COURSE
And what are a few lies along the way? Lying is good for society too!
Sound Familiar?
Taken from the Communist Cuban Constitution:
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ARTICLE 53. Citizens have freedom of speech and of the press in keeping with the objectives of socialist society. Material conditions for the exercise of that right are provided by the fact that the press, radio, television, cinema, and other mass media are state or social property and can never be private property. This assures their use at exclusive service of the working people and in the interests of society.
The law regulated the exercise of those freedoms.
ARTICLE 54. The rights to assembly, demonstration and association are exercised by workers, both manual and intellectual, peasants, women, students and other sectors of the working people, and they have the necessary means for this. The social and mass organizations have all the facilities they need to carry out those activities in which the members have full freedom of speech and opinion based on the unlimited right of initiative and criticism.
ARTICLE 55. The state, which recognizes, respects and guarantees freedom of conscience and of religion, also recognizes, respects and guarantees every citizen’s freedom to change religious beliefs or to not have any, and to profess, within the framework of respect for the law, the religious belief of his preference.
The law regulates the state’s relations with religious institutions.
ARTICLE 56. The home is inviolable. Nobody can enter the home of another against his will, except in those cases foreseen by law.
ARTICLE 57. Mail is inviolable. It can only be seized, opened and examined in cases prescribed by law. Secrecy is maintained on matters other than those which led to the examination.
The same principle is to be applied in the case of cable, telegraph and telephone communications.
ARTICLE 58. Freedom and inviolability of persons is assured to all those who live in the country.
Nobody can be arrested, except in the manner, with the guarantees and in the cases indicated by law.
The persons who has been arrested or the prisoner is inviolable in his personal integrity. |
And well, we all know how well these rights worked out for the cubans! |
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| Skipper |
| quote: | Originally posted by FunkyCrew
Excellent point - however it seems that noone can understand that because everyone (*cough*Jay*cough*) starts crying totalitarian state
Instead of trying to be a smartass and trying "to get out without being ID'ed", why not just comply and make everyone's life easier, ESPECIALLY because you know they can try to make YOUR life harder if you don't? I just find that attitude arrogant, and I will never have a problem with answering questions if every stopped and questioned. |
I don't necessarily believe we should all walk around like donkeys and just comply to make life easier. My post was more an observation about the reaction to what went down on the weekend and where it might come from, compared to that in other countries that have hosted the summit.
For example, I wonder how the Brits would have reacted to what happened in Toronto. By all measures I think we saw a lot less brutality in Toronto than in the UK last year (or was it 2008? can't remember). |
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| Skipper |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
I'm sorry but that is a lot of speculations. We cant go and arrest people because they might commit a crime. they might as well throw all of in jail because what "if" decide to commit a crime at some point in life. |
It is a lot to assume, and that's why our country has more civil liberties provided to its citizen than many others. We assume no one is going to blow up, and no one has, at least not for awhile.
Seriously, it's just going to take one to do something big and the tone of this discussion will change remarkably. People won't be crying foul about having their goggles taken if their eye gets taken out by shrapnel. |
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| FunkyCrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by Skipper
I don't necessarily believe we should all walk around like donkeys and just comply to make life easier. My post was more an observation about the reaction to what went down on the weekend and where it might come from, compared to that in other countries that have hosted the summit. |
of course - my post is also mostly in relation to extraordinary conditions during the G20 summit |
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| Jayx1 |
Remember how i said that the guy impersonating the police officer is a serious offence?
| quote: | Man arrested for impersonating a peace officer, Charlie Veitch, 29
By News on the Net Wednesday, June 30, 2010
On Tuesday, June 29, 2010, police arrested a man for impersonating a peace officer.
It is alleged that:
on Thursday, June 24, 2010, the accused was filming the G20 Summit security fence area at Front Street/York Street,
he was approached by a security officer and was requested to provide identification,
he indicated that he was not carrying identification because he was working undercover as a peace officer,
later a warrant was issued for his arrest by officers from the Toronto Police Service,
the accused was about to board a plane at Toronto Pearson International Airport when he was arrested by officers from Peel Regional Police.
Charlie Veitch, 29, of England, has been charged with:
1) Impersonate a Peace Officer,
He is scheduled to appear in court at 2201 Finch Avenue West, on Wednesday, June 30, 2010, room 203, at 2 p.m.
Constable Tony Vella, Public Information, for Staff Sergeant John Boyce, 52 Division
There are no files attached to this release. |
He shouldnt have been arrested for not showing ID. He should sue them for that.
BUT... he should know better than to impersonate the police. I know he was trying to be funny but he deserves what he gets for being that stupid |
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| smuncky |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
hell no. |
why not? |
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| rabbitjoker |
| quote: | Originally posted by FunkyCrew
how much longer are you going to throw around unproven speculations and using them as basis to your argument? |
That's all he ever has. Quite the bore if you ask me. |
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| FunkyCrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Remember how i said that the guy impersonating the police officer is a serious offence?
He shouldnt have been arrested for not showing ID. He should sue them for that.
BUT... he should know better than to impersonate the police. I know he was trying to be funny but he deserves what he gets for being that stupid |
was there a point somewhere I missed lol?:) highly rhetorical post! |
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| daves |
$1 billion in security was not able to stop 4 cars from being torched but was capable of rounding up 900 people... awesome!
/i have some desert land for sale in the arctic circle |
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