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G20 Happenings Thread... (pg. 8)
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| Sly_Guy |
We didn't ask for the g20. I personally didn't want it. Not only am I being asked to fund this bloated conference for those who already have too much wealth so that they can delay and not reach a consensus or plan of action on how to solve the biggest problems afflicting our planet, but now I'm being asked to give up my rights as a citizen and human being?
This whole summit smacks of abuse of power, and has me quite enraged. For all the noble words and ideals written into our constitution and laws, it's so very reassuring that they can all be swept away under a police state in such a short time. I don't remember being consulted about changes to the canadian charter of rights and freedoms by my elected representative about this, do you? |
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| Sly_Guy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Intangible
This is temporary and to protect (the public, political leaders, the city...)
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How many times in history has protectionist law been enacted under the guise of 'temporary', only for it not to be so?
And who are they protecting me from? The people who I live with side by side everyday of my life?
No, this is not for me or you or the city, of that you can be sure.
This is terrorism succeeding. People fearing so much of a threat that they allow others to choose for them alter their lives. I would personally rather see some broken store windows and a few insurance companies having to do their job and pay out claims than give up my freedom to do as I choose, and to have fairness under the law. |
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| FunkyCrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Everything that has been discussed and presented on this thread is all true unless you can prove them wrong. :) |
uh what?
I see no solid proof for all these speculations you guys are throwing around - you think a bunch of youtube videos prove anything? |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sly_Guy
We didn't ask for the g20. I personally didn't want it. Not only am I being asked to fund this bloated conference for those who already have too much wealth so that they can delay and not reach a consensus or plan of action on how to solve the biggest problems afflicting our planet, but now I'm being asked to give up my rights as a citizen and human being? |
It is like we will take all your money and your rights and will use towards things that really don’t matter to the average person. You would think that these people would discuss the important issues like I don’t know the ENVIRONMENT maybe? But that is of course off the agenda so we will hear is Iran’s Nukes and how to make rich people even richer.
| quote: | | This whole summit smacks of abuse of power, and has me quite enraged. For all the noble words and ideals written into our constitution and laws, it's so very reassuring that they can all be swept away under a police state in such a short time. I don't remember being consulted about changes to the canadian charter of rights and freedoms by my elected representative about this, do you? |
Very valid peoint and I would love to see someone to answer that question too. Who the allowd them to go above and beyond the law? for what?:mad: |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by FunkyCrew
uh what?
I see no solid proof for all these speculations you guys are throwing around - you think a bunch of youtube videos prove anything? |
I presented my concerns you find your legitimate sources to prove me/us wrong.:gsmile: |
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| FunkyCrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
I presented my concerns you find your legitimate sources to prove me/us wrong.:gsmile: |
I've already said that I find those concerns groundless :) I have nothing to add to that! You didn't support your argument with any legitimate sources and neither will I :) |
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| Sentinal |
| On a side note I would like to say hello to whichever level of security is reading this thread right now. Best of luck in smashing those skulls this weekend!! |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sly_Guy
This is terrorism succeeding. People fearing so much of a threat that they allow others to choose for them alter their lives. I would personally rather see some broken store windows and a few insurance companies having to do their job and pay out claims than give up my freedom to do as I choose, and to have fairness under the law. |
insurance wouldn't cover the losses for rioting |
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| Sly_Guy |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
insurance wouldn't cover the losses for rioting |
is that not what insurance is designed to do? To compensate those for losses through no fault of their own? Isn't that what people pay those companies for?
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A promise of compensation for specific potential future losses in exchange for a periodic payment. Insurance is designed to protect the financial well-being of an individual, company or other entity in the case of unexpected loss. Some forms of insurance are required by law, while others are optional. Agreeing to the terms of an insurance policy creates a contract between the insured and the insurer. In exchange for payments from the insured (called premiums), the insurer agrees to pay the policy holder a sum of money upon the occurrence of a specific event. In most cases, the policy holder pays part of the loss (called the deductible), and the insurer pays the rest. Examples include car insurance, health insurance, disability insurance, life insurance, and business insurance.
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| jester |
Great article... comparing Toronto to a post-apocalyptic movie set
National Post |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sly_Guy
is that not what insurance is designed to do? To compensate those for losses through no fault of their own? Isn't that what people pay those companies for?
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Insurance is designed to pay for damages caused by insured perils. Riots is not an insured peril under a policy.
Most policies have an exclusion wording something like this:
Terrorism whether directly or indirectly, in whole or in part, by terrorism or by any activity or decision of a government agency or other entity to prevent, respond to or terminate Terrorism. Such loss or damage is excluded regardless of any other cause or event that contributes concurrently or in any sequence to the loss or damage;
and Terrorism is described as:
an independently motivated unlawful act or acts including but not limited to the use of violence or force or threat of violence or force, committed by or on behalf of any group(s), organizations(s) or government(s) and/or instilling fear in the public or a section of the public |
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| rabbitjoker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sly_Guy
We didn't ask for the g20. |
Actually, I asked for it. |
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