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The Official TOTA Toronto Maple Leafs/Hockey Talk Thread (pg. 123)
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| dj_deltawye |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
and you can't say it was a good trade until you see who we gave up. I don't know...giving up two first rounders and a second rounder for the 5th pick overall in the draft seems like a lot to give up. |
I didn't even know Kessel went 5th overall, but thats pretty good. As far as I'm concerned Kessel IS the 1st round pick of next years draft. He's playing great, and he's only 22 years old, and already an established NHL forward. Yes, they gave up a lot, but they got a lot as well, and who knows who they would have gotten in next years draft, could be a dud, you never know, but with Kessel they got a bonafide goal scorer. Give them some time, they'll be a good team, in the next 2 years, they're already playing better. Gustavsson is a key component too. |
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| Yohan |
| let's hope Kessel isn't the latest trend in whenever leafs trade 1st round pick for a player, he turned out to be a bust |
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| Brennen |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yohan
let's hope Kessel isn't the latest trend in whenever leafs trade 1st round pick for a player, he turned out to be a bust |
Seems like in the past they would do that and acquire a veteran after they had a good year, at least with Kessel hes a young dynamic player and already making an impact on the team. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by Brennen
Seems like in the past they would do that and acquire a veteran after they had a good year, at least with Kessel hes a young dynamic player and already making an impact on the team. |
as long as he doesn't play Boston he is an impact player....he was terrible in all three games against them. |
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| Schadenfreude |
| i don't see how you guys can complain about kessel. The team has been on fire since his return. He is a one dimensional player for sure, but everyone already knew that. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj_deltawye
I didn't even know Kessel went 5th overall, but thats pretty good. As far as I'm concerned Kessel IS the 1st round pick of next years draft. He's playing great, and he's only 22 years old, and already an established NHL forward. Yes, they gave up a lot, but they got a lot as well, and who knows who they would have gotten in next years draft, could be a dud, you never know, but with Kessel they got a bonafide goal scorer. Give them some time, they'll be a good team, in the next 2 years, they're already playing better. Gustavsson is a key component too. |
He may be an established NHLer but he is far from a star NHLer. He really hasn't proven anything yet. He had one season with 60 points, which happened to be a contract year. There are superstars stars and above average players....I would say he falls in the above average player category. If he can maintain a point a game average then you could bump him up to the star category but he will never be a superstar. I just don't think giving up that much for an above average player is really worth it. I would rather keep the two first round picks and develop those players then have Kessel for five years and him leaving afterwards. I don't really see the Leafs being a cup contender in five years. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by Schadenfreude
i don't see how you guys can complain about kessel. The team has been on fire since his return. He is a one dimensional player for sure, but everyone already knew that. |
and as seen in the Boston games he is easily shut down. He is not a hard player to shut down...any first line defenceman could shut him down. I think you will find more teams just shadowing Kessel and making it impossible for him to take his snap shot....the only shot he apparently knows how to use. |
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| Nick Cenik |
| quote: | Originally posted by Schadenfreude
i don't see how you guys can complain about kessel. The team has been on fire since his return. |
You know why I like Kessel? Because he shoots nearly every time he gets control of the puck. |
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| High on PSI |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nick Cenik
You know why I like Kessel? Because he shoots nearly every time he gets control of the puck. |
Then you must LOVE Jason Blake :D |
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| Schadenfreude |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
and as seen in the Boston games he is easily shut down. He is not a hard player to shut down...any first line defenceman could shut him down. I think you will find more teams just shadowing Kessel and making it impossible for him to take his snap shot....the only shot he apparently knows how to use. |
That it what happens when you really only have one good line. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nick Cenik
You know why I like Kessel? Because he shoots nearly every time he gets control of the puck. |
there is a big difference between taking quality shots and just shooting it because you don't know what else to do with it. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by Schadenfreude
That it what happens when you really only have one good line. |
Toronto has pretty balanced scoring on the top two lines. The biggest thing I've noticed since Kessel has been in the line up is players trying to hard to get him the puck. When the teams shut him down the other players look lost now. |
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