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The Official TOTA Toronto Maple Leafs/Hockey Talk Thread (pg. 204)
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| Spin Laden |
MLS and NHL are pretty different crowds plus their seasons don't overlap too much as MLS ends in Nov. Kansas had NHL at one point and Seattle has a WHL team, Brendan Witt and Patrick Marleau played there at one point.
No NBA teams in both cities. just a couple of medicore NFL and MLB teams at present :p
In any case there is no 100% certainty thsse teams would be successful but the elements are there. Luck and timing plays a role too. |
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| zyklon-jay |
and the fact that Kansas City has probably the most modern state of the art arena without a sports team.
| quote: | | Since Opening on Oct. 10, 2007, Sprint Center has exceeded all expectations having hosted more than 400 events and 4 million guests. Having recently celebrated its third anniversary, Sprint Center continues to set attendance records and exceed financial goals. According to Pollstar Magazine’s 2010 Year End Report, Sprint Center has been recognized as America’s fifth busiest arena and No. 13 among Worldwide Venues. The #13 slot is Sprint Center’s highest year-end ranking since opening on Oct. 10, 2007. |
you can refer to my previous comments in the thread on venues and how sports teams make them work.:p |
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| zyklon-jay |
this can give you an idea of cities that need franchises. |
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| zyklon-jay |
| ps bell center is 5th now:p |
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| Spin Laden |
| quote: | Originally posted by zyklon-jay
I disagree about Ottawa. That hockey market is unstable at best and there are always empty seats and plenty of tickets for sale. The running joke in Montreal is that everyone sees the Senators the most because of how close it is, and how easy to get and cheap the tickets are compared to here.
An NHL team isn't exactly always there to turn a huge profit. The successful model in almost every good market is an owner who owns the venue, and uses sports teams as tenants. This is in the hope to break even or make a small profit, cover operating costs, and clean up on non sports bookings like concerts and such. Its no secret that many of the struggling NHL teams are leasers in barns that don't belong to them. Sports teams, even if unprofitable, always lend more weight to a venue as an appropriate concert venue. I think that the NHL should only hand out franchises to owners that can own their barn...it will never happen, but that is the ticket to the most profitable NHL imo.
Kansas City is making a case for a team like this...they boast the highest hockey ratings of any American city without a team, and consistently crack the top 10 in overall american ratings for national games. I wouldn't be surprised if this is the next franchise, or possibly Vegas. Bettman has wanted this forever. Quebec's plan's are too up in the air via venue issues to be considered front runners just yet.
Too many owners spoil the broth...just look at Edmonton back when they were a consortium of 30 owners. Nothing got done. The Leafs are too much of a cash cow to not be swooped up by a media giant. It will be a company with multi access media platform that purchases them for sure to use as content. I'd bet the farm on it. |
:p ;)
Thing with MLS, although apparently well-run and some good, talented players, it's not the best soccer league on the planet, not even close. NHL is the top league for its sport and major cities like major products, Atlanta notwithstanding :p
Kansas and Quebec City or Seattle, imo. So who is on the outs, you guys think? Probably the Islanders (which is sad, given their history) and Phoenix for now. |
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| zyklon-jay |
Columbus.
#BlameSubban.
about ing time. |
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| Spin Laden |
| lots of events in Kansas, imagine how bad the ice would be :p |
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| zyklon-jay |
| BBQ though...mmmm BBQ. |
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| Spin Laden |
| quote: | Originally posted by zyklon-jay
Columbus.
#BlameSubban.
about ing time. |
mediocre on ice product but then fan base is/was there? can't remember. |
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| zyklon-jay |
| there is nothing going on in ohio making sponsorship dollars dryer than betty white's snatch. |
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| Spin Laden |
lol
Anytime you can make a reference to Betty White's snatch in a Leafs thread seamlessly it deserves its own thumbs up |
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| MSZ |
more injuries are always nice :o
waits patiently for connoly to re-injure. |
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