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Headfones (pg. 24)
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| ShadySlim |
| quote: | Originally posted by fzrr
What are the consequences if the mixer can't drive the headphones? Distorted sound? or no sound at all?? |
Answer: Weak, distorted sound. |
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| DJ Darchinova |
Hey peoples..
just wondering what you mean by the mixer "driving" the headphones?
Also on the V700 topic, you can't really compare till you have actually tried the best.. MDR-V6/MDR7506 or the HD-280's! |
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| Alccode |
| quote: | Originally posted by fzrr
Is there anyone out there running some HD280 Pro's with a Behringer VMX300 mixer or similar?? |
yup!!!! i have that exact setup, hd280 pro's and a vmx300. there are no problems whatsoever, rest assured. they can get mucho loud if you so desire (which i don't recommend hehe). :cool:
cool mixer btw, excellent price and great features, i've had it for a couple of months now and no problems. |
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| fzrr |
| Yeah the VMX300 is a pretty cool mixer for a home setup!! I just got the HD280 Pro's yesterday. Seem pretty good so far!! Thanks for all the advice people! |
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| Gluegun |
Hey, is anyone gonna try these new headphones that look like they should be KICKASS DJ headphones?
The Ultrasone HFI-650 that you can get from www.meier-audio.com ??
Here's a review...
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/showt...&threadid=16007
Of course, that *IS* by the guy selling them, and he DOES assume that one is using a headphone amp... but with a lower impedence than the HD280 Pro's, and a similar style build, they should be quite nice.
Is anyone gonna take a chance? |
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| bachatu |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ-A-Tone
man the v-6 sounds like the way to go, and its a great in deal cuz i can get it for only 54 bucks. I have been hearing stuff about replacement pads by byerdynamic... what is that all about? Do they help? |
54 bucks? From where?
Anyone else know what is the cheapest to find in the USA,,, any online shops? Cheapest I've found was 69.99 at a couple of places. |
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| Gluegun |
| quote: | Originally posted by bachatu
54 bucks? From where?
Anyone else know what is the cheapest to find in the USA,,, any online shops? Cheapest I've found was 69.99 at a couple of places. |
The price varies from time to time and place to place. Check shopping.yahoo.com for the cheapest available price of the moment. www.etronics.com usually has them quite cheap, though they are currently out of stock of the V6's at the moment. |
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| bachatu |
Yeah, i saw etronics.com.... they are generally cheap with most headphones.
Now, Im thinking of getting new cans... though now im stuck in between getting the Sony mdr-V6 or the Sennheiser HD280 Pro.
I'm debating cause I currently have the MDR-V700DJ, and I'm skeptical of getting Sony's again because of my bad experience with the 700s. A bit over a year and the hinges for the swivel cups are cracked,,, ty headphones. NO warranty to get them repaired. I dont trust Sony in being too rugged, while sennheiser warranty on the HD280 pro comes with 2 yrs and all parts are replaceable.
Ive read the whole headphone sticky thread, lots to read, but worth it.
Now I have a couple of questions of my own...
I've heard people give good reviews of both the V6 and HD pro 280,,, though the reviews on the HDPRO280s are mixed.. some people thought they are great, some people think they arent good enough. Sony mdr-v6 is pretty consistant, but i've heard a couple of reviews with the bass being to exaggerated. What about the good old HD25 by sennheiser?
How do those compare in sound quality to HD280s? My big question: Can they go as loud and keep up with the HD25 without having distortion? I know the HD25 can go loud and remain very clear. Why do the HD280s cost less than HD25?
I understand that the HD280 PRO cancels out noise more than any other headphone. However, because its extra sound isolation, does it sacrifice sound quality (in comparison to V6 or HD25)?
You must be wondering "what are you going to be using your headphones for?"... okay. Well, I DJ, so I will need something that goes loud and can handle the DJ tasks, and I use one ear to monitor, so it wold help if they are a bit flexible (not a must). Also, I will also be producing, so I need something accurate. I'm leaning more towards the HD280s, however, if they are not as good as the HD25s in terms of audio quality and loudness, I'd rather save up the extra cash and get those. I may get the V6 if the price is good enough, like about 55 bucks.
One thing I don't get is how Trancegeek mentioned that he liked his Sony mdrv6 more than the HD280 PRO. Also,
this quote from a review on amazon:
"Reviewer: Jim Phelan (see more about me) from Bloomfield, NJ United States
For someone who has spent years chasing the best equipment for the price, I really should have known better than to order headphones based on brand name, attractive pricing and some positive reviews. Headphones are very PERSONAL...no one can decide what you like and as with all audio equipment, specifications don't tell the story.
I have no doubt that these headphones meet the advertised specifications. They have solid bass, an adequate midrange and decent treble. That being said, they are not "musical"; they present sound across the audible spectrum but are not really coherent or involving in any way. They might improve with some burn in but I don't feel the basics are really there to improve.
Physically, these headphones are MUCH LARGER than I expected...the ear cups are large with a lot of interior space that seems excessive and contributes to an unfocused quality of musical image. They are also much heavier than expected. Finally, they do not fold up very small, in spite of what the advertising says. These headphones are not really practical to carry around with a portable.
My reference headphones, the Sony MDR-V6's, which I've had for at least 15 years, sound WAY better than the Senn 280's, are much smaller, fold up very small and are much more comfortable. They are also very well made and have stood up well over the years. I was expecting some metal construction in the 280's but alas they are entirely made of plastic, which [suprises me]...
The Sony V6's have been reissued as model 7506 and are a very good all around headphone. For something significantly better, check out Denon. The AHD-210's are incredible for the money, as are the 350's and 550's. There is nothing flashy or trendy about these phones but they are extremely well made, comfortable and MUSICAL. Each model in the line is musical and generally the more you spend, the more refinement and nuance you get. I'll be turning in the Senn 280's for the Denon AHD-950's which I don't think can be surpassed for all types of music, comfort and quality... "
It makes me wonder... So what is more accurate sounding, the HD280s or V6s or HD25s? Interesting. |
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| Gluegun |
Accuracy isn't that hard to figure out--
the HD25 is boomy, the MDR-V6 is slightly bright, and the HD280 Pro is the most accurate of the bunch. However, oftentimes, a flat response is not exactly NEEDED for studio work. In a studio, is it not worthwhile to create a sound that will sound good on as many systems as possible, even if it is not 100% true to the in real life instrument? When producing some sort of track, you are doing everything in YOUR POWER to make it sound as good as possible on THEIR system... and you need monitors that enable you to do so. The MDR-V6's are 'ever so slightly bright' so you don't commit the sin of making the highs too ear-bleedingly forward. If you try to do that with the V6's, you are gonna get painful highs... *that* is why the MDR-V6's and MDR-7506's are the studio standard around the world. However, the HD280 Pro's are, technically, superior headphones that can resolve more detail and are more accurate to exactly what is on the original mix... but is that exactly what you need? Also, when the HD280 Pro's 'distort', it is generally the MIXER'S HEADPHONE JACK distorting. This usually happens when, in DJ use, it one EQ's the mix (and the bass), which the headphone opamps can't handle, so your monitors have distorted bass. A lighter load on those opamps, like a dedicated headphone amp, should fix this... but it isn't your headphones themselves that are distorting. That is the 'bass problem' with the HD280 Pro's. When DJ's equalize the bass on their middle-end DJ-oriented mixers, as they MUST as part of their job, the mixer can't take it when connected to some headphones and they distort the bass. the MDR-V6's, which are easy to drive, and the HD25's, which are even boomier, less accurate, and easier to drive (but still in the audiophile realm -- barely, and the HD25's have a bad price/performance ratio for an audiophile), don't ask as much of the mixer, and therefore dont show this problem. Also, the AHD-950's hardly isolate any at all...
I would choose between the HD280 Pro and the MDR-V6, depending on your equipment and monitoring and producing style. Also, i ICQ'ed you, do you think you could get on ICQ? thanks. |
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| fzrr |
I too asked all of the question which you asked bachatu! I was deciding between the MDRV-7506 and the HD280's. In the end i went for the HD280's because they were cheaper for me and all the parts a replaceable and i figured they can't be that bad. I've only had them a week and i only use them for DJ'ing. They go so loud without distorting that you would not want to put them on if they were fully cranked.
All i can say is they do the job and i have no plans to replace them with something different at the moment. Although i wouldn't mind a pair of the Sony's way in the future just for the hell of it. :toothless |
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| Gluegun |
| FYI, all the parts of the V6 and 7506 are replacable and interchangeable (they ARE the same headphones, remember?) In fact, the MDR-7506 even comes with a sheet with the various part numbers on it, to facilitate easy replacement. |
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| fzrr |
| I read somewhere in one of the links to a review you posted that the cord was not replacable?? :rolleyes: |
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