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Headfones (pg. 48)
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| ShadySlim |
| quote: | Originally posted by TranzAddict
how bout these...Sennheiser HD 270 Headphones or
SENNHEISER HD-570 HEADPHONES HD570 or
SENNHEISER HD500 PRO for 10$ or
SONY MDR-V600 Studio Monitor Headphones ??
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I'd recommend none of the above for your use, I'm afraid. Both the HD500 and the HD570 let in too much external noises (since they're open, not closed), and the HD270 and the MDR-V600 both sound extremely muddy (in fact, much worse than other closed headphones of equal price). |
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| ShadySlim |
I haven't heard those, but don't expect much in the way of sound quality or durability from so-called "DJ" headphones priced that cheap. |
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| TranzAddict |
| so what do u all recommend?? i should just get the 30$ ones for now huh.. and while i practice djing..ill save up for the best... |
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| Gluegun |
| Save up for something that you can get online... HD280 Pro, HD25's, maybe some of the more-respected "DJ style" ones on this forum... |
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| KristineClub |
I just got the AKG 271's today. The only good thing I have to say about them is that they're very comfy and they have great isolation. I also like the mute switch on the headband although it's not needed. The quality of the sound was alright but there just ain't enough bass and it takes way too much power to drive them. While wearing them, they feel great but they just look goofy as hell! They're much bigger than my Sonys but they're also much lighter, making them seem cheap. My MDR v700's aren't as comfortable but they sure as hell sound better and I'm confident I don't look like a geek wearing them (no offense to any geeks). They may be worth the $ for some of you but not me.
-Greg |
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| Gluegun |
| quote: | Originally posted by KristineClub
I just got the AKG 271's today. The only good thing I have to say about them is that they're very comfy and they have great isolation. I also like the mute switch on the headband although it's not needed. The quality of the sound was alright but there just ain't enough bass and it takes way too much power to drive them. While wearing them, they feel great but they just look goofy as hell! They're much bigger than my Sonys but they're also much lighter, making them seem cheap. My MDR v700's aren't as comfortable but they sure as hell sound better and I'm confident I don't look like a geek wearing them (no offense to any geeks). They may be worth the $ for some of you but not me.
-Greg |
So basically, your mixer has difficulty driving them, and they don't have enough bass for your environments, either because your mixer isn't driving them correctly, which would decrease the bass, or the loud bass gets through the isolation? Hmm...
Ever tried matching with the hi-hats? And drive them with some other sources to let your ears get used to the sound. You might find that, after a bit, you won't need the exaggerated bass. 'Course, I could be wrong... |
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| ShadySlim |
| quote: | Originally posted by KristineClub
I just got the AKG 271's today. The only good thing I have to say about them is that they're very comfy and they have great isolation. I also like the mute switch on the headband although it's not needed. The quality of the sound was alright but there just ain't enough bass and it takes way too much power to drive them. While wearing them, they feel great but they just look goofy as hell! They're much bigger than my Sonys but they're also much lighter, making them seem cheap. My MDR v700's aren't as comfortable but they sure as hell sound better and I'm confident I don't look like a geek wearing them (no offense to any geeks). They may be worth the $ for some of you but not me.
-Greg |
Read the post that I made in the thread that's linked below, dated 12 Oct 2003:
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...15&pagenumber=2
This post tells you why boosted-up bass alone isn't enough to hear the beats properly. You also need somewhat emphasized upper-midrange/lower-treble response, as well. Unfortunately, the Sony MDR-V700DJ doesn't quite cut it in the all-important upper-midrange/lower-treble region.
In addition, the Sonys have overboosted midrange - especially lower midrange - response. This, along with the overboosted mid-bass response and significantly reduced upper-midrange and lower-treble response, makes the DJ using those Sonys much more likely than most to flub (read: mess up) on the beatmatching. |
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| Gluegun |
| quote: | Originally posted by ShadySlim
Read the post that I made in the thread that's linked below, dated 12 Oct 2003:
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...15&pagenumber=2
This post tells you why boosted-up bass alone isn't enough to hear the beats properly. You also need somewhat emphasized upper-midrange/lower-treble response, as well. Unfortunately, the Sony MDR-V700DJ doesn't quite cut it in the all-important upper-midrange/lower-treble region.
In addition, the Sonys have overboosted midrange - especially lower midrange - response. This, along with the overboosted mid-bass response and significantly reduced upper-midrange and lower-treble response, makes the DJ using those Sonys much more likely than most to flub (read: mess up) on the beatmatching. |
Respectfully... I'll have to disagree with some of your conclusions. We all know the V700DJ's are inaccurate. They are designed that way. However, lots of DJ's here have a mixing style that uses them successfully. Granted, if you START with some accurate, high-isolation headphones, and learn to mix with that "sound", your mixing will be better, but if you are committed to the "DJ sound" for whatever reason (hearing loss, anyone?), than it's tough to make the change.. |
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| KristineClub |
| quote: | Originally posted by Gluegun
So basically, your mixer has difficulty driving them, and they don't have enough bass for your environments, either because your mixer isn't driving them correctly, which would decrease the bass, or the loud bass gets through the isolation? Hmm...
Ever tried matching with the hi-hats? And drive them with some other sources to let your ears get used to the sound. You might find that, after a bit, you won't need the exaggerated bass. 'Course, I could be wrong... |
It may be because my mixer isn't driving them properly but I hooked them up to my Denon AVR 3802 (which has PLENTY of power to drive them) and I had the same thing happen. Now I never said I was having trouble beat-matching with these headphones. I know how to beatmatch w/out using a lot of bass- I was just comparing the AKG's to the Sony's. |
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| ShadySlim |
| quote: | Originally posted by Gluegun
Respectfully... I'll have to disagree with some of your conclusions. We all know the V700DJ's are inaccurate. They are designed that way. However, lots of DJ's here have a mixing style that uses them successfully. Granted, if you START with some accurate, high-isolation headphones, and learn to mix with that "sound", your mixing will be better, but if you are committed to the "DJ sound" for whatever reason (hearing loss, anyone?), than it's tough to make the change.. |
Oh, fair enough. :eek: |
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| fuct4less |
| damn, this sucks, i broke my sony mdr-150s today :( . so im wondering if somebody can recomend some headphones with better sound, but still around the same price range ($25 usd). |
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