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| djshtr |
So in my boredom i look though all the 'fav dj pix' thread and I can't help but notice that just about every DJ pic has the V700s in them! Makes me feel really uncomfortable to go out and get the HD280s like everyone says when every pro DJ has the 700s... they all can't be getting paid on the side.... can they??
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| Exodus17 |
| quote: | Originally posted by djshtr
So in my boredom i look though all the 'fav dj pix' thread and I can't help but notice that just about every DJ pic has the V700s in them! Makes me feel really uncomfortable to go out and get the HD280s like everyone says when every pro DJ has the 700s... they all can't be getting paid on the side.... can they??
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thing about pro djs vs avg djs, they have the $ to spend on a new set of phones when needed b/c its part of who they are and what they do for a living as well as their image whereas we buy what best fits our budjet as well as expectations... you buy anything over $100 you probably dont want to have to replace it for a good while
also, just cus the pros have the 700s doesnt mean you need them...
the guys at sony knew what they were doing when they designed those cans, they're damn sexy, the way they sound and the way they look, how can you not want them? everytime i go to best buy or guitar center i go to the headphones section just to put em on:toothless of course they break tho... but like someone said earlier, nothing lasts forever, everything is bound to break sooner or later, IMO alot of it depends on how you treat your gear
sennheiser needs to make a flashy model... they obviously know how to make good headphones, if only they came out with a pair that didnt look like it was designed with elephants in mind |
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| ShadySlim |
| quote: | Originally posted by Exodus17
ive seen a couple models listed to have a frequency range of as low as 5khz... is that true or is it just something thrown out by advertizers to get ppls attention...
like the 700s ive seen to have a 5hz low same as the 3000s and v600, the hd1000 are said to go down to 8hz...
anyone know if this is legit info or if theres a way to prove it? ive read alot of mixed specs on models depending on the site i check
i own the v600 and ive been listening to alot of dnb lately and ive noticed alot of frequencies that just seem like they come from somewhere else within the phones and when i listen to the same part on my spinning setup those same parts are usually the ones that wind up coming from the sub |
Frequency response specs don't mean s**t. Just because a headphone lists 5Hz can mean that the response at 5Hz is more than 30dB lower than at 1000Hz. In fact, I have owned those same two Sony models before, and neither could reproduce any real low bass response; their -3dB cutoff point is between 70Hz and 100Hz! And the midrange on the V600 is especially bloated!
Furthermore, many headphones which are cheaper than those two Sonys and/or whose bass response limit is listed at only 20Hz actually have better, deeper, more extended low bass than either of those Sonys. |
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| djshtr |
Guitar Center offers a 2 year warranty on headphones for just $20..
does that help out the v700 cause? So you'll end up paying $99+$20 and you know you'll get at least two years of it..
..or is the big bulky Senn280 still the better choice?
BTW - went to guitar center and i felt like some space martian with the 280s on my head! looks like it would be great for the studio but a headache for mobile jobs...? |
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| ShadySlim |
| quote: | Originally posted by djshtr
Guitar Center offers a 2 year warranty on headphones for just $20..
does that help out the v700 cause? So you'll end up paying $99+$20 and you know you'll get at least two years of it..
..or is the big bulky Senn280 still the better choice?
BTW - went to guitar center and i felt like some space martian with the 280s on my head! looks like it would be great for the studio but a headache for mobile jobs...? |
It does not help the V700 cause. The V700 is one of the most torturously uncomfortable headphones that I've ever worn! Although the pads are large enough to go completely around the ears, they're so shallow that your ears get firmly pressed against the thinly padded hard-plastic driver plane! And not only the V700 is heavier than most headphones, but its weight distribution is poorly balanced as well. Thus, the V700 is both painful and unstable on the head. Ugh! |
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| sandstorm03 |
| My 700s broke yesterday after like 2-3 years of use, i guess im getting another pair... |
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| tvmann |
I just noticed these new headphones, Sennheiser HD 215. $90 USA at some web dealers.
Said to be designed for DJs, "extremely rugged", closed design for isolation, rotatable ear cup for one ear listening.
Senn SPL (sound pressure) ratings, presumably these are the maximum:
HD 280: 102 db
HD 215: 112 db
HD 25: 120 db
The HD 215 weighs 280 grams compared to 220 & 140 grams for the HD 280 & HD 25.
HD 215 impedance is about 32 ohms (like a lot of other DJ headphones) compared to about 64 for the HD 280 and HD 25.
http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheise...sf/root/500156#
I have HD 280 but find they are not sturdy, the headband cracks and breaks. Looking at Sony 7506 as replacement but these Senn 215 look interesting, maybe someone will review. |
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| djcl.ear |
Tvman
HD-280 has 113 dB /1 Vrms, not 102dB see the specs at:
http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheise...280PRO_bda.pdf/$File/HD280PRO_bda.pdf.
Still you wont need to get the volume that high. I usually dont go past the middle of the Hphones volume on mixers.
And about impedance; a higher impedance(measured in ohms) means a bigger load for the amp to get the internal drivers(spks) moving. This is why 4 Ohms will result in more output(SPL)at the speakers than 8 Ohms rated spks for the same power from the amp.
However what few seem to know is that bigger impedance usually means a tighter grip on the cone's movement, meaning less boomy bass and less overall distortion.
And despite the higher (-64 Ohms) figure, HD-280 still is able to produce 113dB of SPL(the correct measure of an speaker output).
Then, add that to the -32dB of external sound attenuation which is crucial in my djing, since I usually do it being concious of midds and treble and at most other hphones I've tried, they most always left only the beat out to be heard when used at very loud music enviroments.
All in all, HD-280' audio quality is superb to me, and they even get better with each time I use them.
I would recommend recent owners to leave the Hphones plugged to the CD player on repeat mode and try to reach over 300 hours of use(break in). The sound gets more detailed and breathes more. And that could be important if you -as I do- you use the HD-280 headphones to monitor your audio fidgetting and effecting on your PC before Djing the tracks.
Ideally I'd would additionally own an extra pair of air-open hphones for that, but for those who need a single unit for both tasks, HD-280 is a very good choice.
And yes, after two years the headband has some minor cracks, but dont fear it; they've gone through my sister's son hands and still feel very solid. I wished Sennheiser would have solved that already(if it is not done at the plated/white more recent variation?).
Appart from that minor cosmetical loss I have not read of a single review of them falling apart because of it.
They do demand care in turning the earcups as designed and not to force them as they weren't.
Enjoy! |
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| tvmann |
I found the first review on the Sennheiser HD 215 - actually not exactly a review but some user comments. It seems that they sound like the HD 280 (cost is about the same) but maybe are mechanically stronger.
http://www6.head-fi.org/forums/arch...p/t-111541.html |
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| Dzokayi |
And before the statisticians come in here, foaming at the mouth over my tiny sample size - I'm just relaying my experience.
I've had mine for maybe 1.5 years. Babied, absolutely babied. I have a regular Sunday gig from 5ish till 2am ish. A few hours during the week spent practising at home. A couple of weeks ago, the glue holding the padding to the headband gave up the ghost... on both sides within days of eachother. 2 weeks later, I'm getting no bass at all, and the highs are harsh. Time to throw them away.
2 of my friends also have these headphones, and they're just as meticulous with the care of their equipment. One is on his 3rd pair (cracked, 2nd pair lost sound in 1 channel), and the other friend's lost sound in one channel. Both of them have had theirs for less time than I have, but play more gigs.
My initial thought when buying these was 'man, they're light!'. I know that heft ? quality, but sometimes it's a damn good indicator. I was quite pleased with them till they crapped out. This time I'm going with the new Technics. They're heavy, and exude a feeling of quality. They don't have to be the most accurate, but at that price, I expect them to be comfortable for extended periods, isolate exterior sound, and hold up a lot better than the Pioneers. After I've lived with them for a while, I'll post a review... |
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| Neo Hacker |
Hey guys,
I didn't read all posts of course but I got a quick question for you. I'm planning to buy new headphones for my mp3 player and future dj system. I'm wondering which one I should choose btw those 3:
-Sony MDR-V700
-Stanton DJ Pro 2000S
-Numark PHX
My retailer has only those 3 models that are interesting me, so please comment on these and not on other models...which one should I choose? I never worn the Stanton and Numark, but as for sound quality and headphones quality, which one would you pick and why??
I know that many Djs use Stanton 2000S and Sony MDR-V700.
Thanks :) |
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| Exodus17 |
if you want them to last more than a year or two get the stantons
if you want the sonys go for em but alot of ppl have had them break after a year or so
i believe the numarks werent that great.. especially compared to those two... |
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