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Headfones (pg. 34)
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| Busy Child |
well, since i just bought the new pioneers, ill make a post. . .
First and foremost, these headphones kick ass and blow away the sony 500,600, and 700. The sound quality in these things is unreal. You can crank up the volume to levels that u were always afraid to before and you wont hear any distortion. The bass is very low and unmuffled and the treb is so crisp and tight. Soundwise, these things are the real deal.
Physically, these headphones are by far the sexiest looking. They are a bit pricey and they look it because of its silver painting and parts of it is chrome painted. Ive always thought that these particular model of headphones took what Sony did with the 700s and built upon it. When I went shopping for headphones, my biggest concern was the headphone breaking in the long run like many ppl claimed with their sony 700. On the Pioneers, the swivel part is not as flimsy as the Sonys, but you should still be VERY careful. The overall framework on the headphones are sturdier a bit more rigid, and a lil bit more manuverable. But since these things cost me a whopping $150 usd, its not like i will be throwing these things around. An extra feature that i noticed that on the headphones itself, is a switch that allows you to switch to mono or stereo. This being djs like to switch to mono when beatmatching to the monitors.
The only flaws i could see in these is that when u first put these things on new, they feel awfully tight . . .as if the cups squeeze into your head. Hopefully they will stretch in time since they are new. The most comfortable phones ive put on are the Sony 600s and on a scale from 1-10 on being able to use the pioneers for long periods of time, id give it a 6. Also, i noticed that the cord on the phones are relatively short even though they do stretch some distance. My old phones had a long cord and that was sooo nice to be able to walk around a bit. So if youre the type that doesnt like to take ur phones on and off frequently, you better get used to keeping all ur things close to your dj setup :)
Overall, these things are the real deal. Its only like $20-30 more expensive than the Sony 700 but its well worth the investment. Once u get these, you will be set for a long period of time. The look that Pioneer acheived in the hdj 1000 made these phones professional looking and in a way, sexy. When ppl see you put these things on, they know youre not ing around in what u do and lets just hope your djing skills can back it up.
I would be extra careful if you get these because im told that these particular phones get stolen frequently at the club and i believe it!
Happy shopping! |
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| Jah |
im really tied between the pioneer/technics 1210's
arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
they cost about the same here in aus... |
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| Busy Child |
| I think its very important to not overlook the importance of headphones. Nowadays id much rather listen to my music with my headphones than on my floor speakers because id be doing my neighbors a favor, and its the best way to zone out to my trance. With the nice pioneers that i got, the first thing i did was slap on an OLD tiesto set, (notice the OLD in caps), and got chills due to the clarity in the headphones. Its kinda like learning some new sex positions :) |
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| Gluegun |
| quote: | Originally posted by Busy Child
well, since i just bought the new pioneers, ill make a post. . .
First and foremost, these headphones kick ass and blow away the sony 500,600, and 700. The sound quality in these things is unreal. You can crank up the volume to levels that u were always afraid to
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You realize that it isnt that hard to do that? THESE:
http://www.headphone.com/layout.php...ctID=0020080212
Do it with ease.. |
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| Alccode |
Busy Child,
I'm glad you like your Pioneer's. For DJ'ing, from what I've read across a few boards, I'd say these phones are pretty high up there, at about the same level as the Sony MDR-V700, though the HDJ-1000's seem a *tad* too shiny and a *tad* too overdone, in my personal view.
Have you read Magicthyse's headphone comparison page? (link in Gluegun's sig) I've never tried the Pioneer's myself, but from that page, I can draw a fairly accurate idea of how they sound like. I say this because he reviews two headphones that I *do* have, the Sony MDR-V700 and the Sennheiser HD-280 Pro. In both of those reviews I pretty much agree with most, if not all, of what he says.
Now, what I'm trying to get at follows from this:
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I think its very important to not overlook the importance of headphones. Nowadays id much rather listen to my music with my headphones than on my floor speakers because id be doing my neighbors a favor, and its the best way to zone out to my trance. With the nice pioneers that i got, the first thing i did was slap on an OLD tiesto set, (notice the OLD in caps), and got chills due to the clarity in the headphones. Its kinda like learning some new sex positions |
Since you seem to understand the importance of headphones, I would heartily disagree in saying that the Pioneers are near "audiophile" levels.
Headphone sound quality spans a surprisingly huge spectrum, and most people don't realize just how large of a spectrum this is.
For example, when I was first introduced to "serious" headphones, I had the Sony V700's (yes, yes, I know..). And I thought they were good, really good. In fact, why wouldn't I have thought that? I never listened to any better headphones.
Well, that changed, after noticing the shortfalls of the V700's for "serious" listening (Gluegun prodded me in the right direction :D - giving credit where credit is due). So I got the Sennheiser HD-280's.
And they blew me away. The V700's were of no compare whatsoever.
Most recently, however, to alleviate my sealed, portable headphone needs, I got myself a pair of Sony MDR-7506.
Now, I thought that the HD-280's were VERY good, and that anything better would be just marginally better. I was wrong.
If the Senn's blew me away, then the MDR-7506 BLEW me away; if you catch my meaning. ;)
Now I realize the spectrum extends much farther than what I had originally anticipated. I'm sure that, for example, the Sennheiser HD-600's would make the V6/7506 sound like cheap earbuds. :toothless
Well, not quite, but substantially better in any case.
Well, that's that. Just wanted to help out a little, as you obviously care about the quality of the music that you're listening to. I hope you get a real pair of quality cans for "pleasure listening," separate from DJ'ing cans a la Pioneers. |
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| DJ Chrono |
| quote: | Originally posted by Alccode
I hope you get a real pair of quality cans for "pleasure listening," separate from DJ'ing cans a la Pioneers. |
Exactly. Audiophile headphones for pure pleasure listening purposes are definately much better than using DJ headphones. They (should be) more comfortable, and they're designed for the best quality audio possible, rather than for durability and overdone bass.
In general audiophile headphones are more money, but you're paying for the quality. As you look into different brands, each have a unique sound with noticable differences in clarity, sound-stage, and EQ. For quality brands try Grado, AKG, Audio Technica, Etymotic, Sennheiser, and certain Sonys (MDR-CD3000, MDR-V6, Eggo).
Also to maximize headphone efficiancy, and to feed some of the power hungry models, a headphone AMP is a good investment. If you're good with electronics you can even order your own DIY kit. This will definately increase the sound quality of audiophile phones. |
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| Acid John |
i dunno if this has been discussed before or not (im too lazy to wade through ALL 27 pages of this post)
has anyone seen the "Ministry of Sound" headphones?
i was walking thru best buy, and next to the sony mdr-v700s, i saw some headphones put out by the ministry of sound.
all i kno is that parts of the actual headphones were a dark, foresty green color, and the rest was black. i didnt spend much time reading the box, so i dont remember any kinda model number.
these seem really new, cuz i was in that best buy several times over the holiday season, and just the other day was the first time i saw these headphones. |
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| DjJade |
| i got a pair of hd 280 pros and frankly im not very impressed... even though they are clear, i think its got some sort of ring in the upper mids that make it sound kinda cheap. it only sounds good when i have it equalized on the computer or something.... could it be that i got a bad pair? i am through the burn in procees, btw. they are all around more clear than the sony v700s for sure, but i think i still like the way the v700s sound as in the way they they sound through the whole spectrum. anyone else notice this? |
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| Alccode |
| quote: | Originally posted by DjJade
i got a pair of hd 280 pros and frankly im not very impressed... even though they are clear, i think its got some sort of ring in the upper mids that make it sound kinda cheap. it only sounds good when i have it equalized on the computer or something.... could it be that i got a bad pair? i am through the burn in procees, btw. they are all around more clear than the sony v700s for sure, but i think i still like the way the v700s sound as in the way they they sound through the whole spectrum. anyone else notice this? |
Woah.. you're not kidding?
After getting the HD280's, the V700's sounded like mud to me. That is how clear the Senn's are. The only real fault, I'd say, is that the bass is just slightly "weak".. I'm only saying this because the V6/7506 has a more "realistic" bass.
Perhaps you got a lemon. I know there was discussion in other forums about a bad HD280 strain, but an early one.
Can you return and/or swap them?
EDIT: maybe you have a perfectly good pair, and are just really used to boomy, bassy headphones. This is just as plausible. I have a feeling this is the reason. |
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| DjJade |
| no i know good sound...its not me becuase i was into audiophile equipment before i got into djing so im set up wtih kilpsch monitors and single ended triodes. maybe i got a lemon... anyone know how the lemons usually sound? |
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| DJ Chrono |
Ah, Just recieved my AKG 401's in the mail! :happy2:
These things are amazing. This is the sound quality I couldn't reach with my sony's.
They fit perfectly over top of the ear, exposing the entire ear to the audio. very comfortable, as the pads dont actually touch the ear at all, but there is slight pressure where the pads touch the jaw.
Sound clarity is.. undescribable. I seriously can hear things previously inaudible. EQing on these seem perfect. Highs are nice and pronounced, without being too sharp. Lows are good, not a huge amount of bass, but a comfortable level.
The sound-stage and stereo qualities are beautiful and very wide.
There is really no comparison between these and the Sony 700s, but again they are made for different purposes. |
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| Alccode |
| quote: | Originally posted by DjJade
no i know good sound...its not me becuase i was into audiophile equipment before i got into djing so im set up wtih kilpsch monitors and single ended triodes. maybe i got a lemon... anyone know how the lemons usually sound? |
I can't provide you with a direct link, but I know the general "sound" is very shrill, kind of like what you have described.
Try searching the forums at http://www.head-fi.org ; I'm sure you'll find the information you need there.
EDIT: Actually I tried doing a quick search there and couldn't find anything... mind you, I wasn't very thorough. |
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