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Gluegun
Ah, but when you have that boomy headphone on one ear and a monitor blasting in another ear... you're gonna lose your hearing. :( Maybe one of those one-sided beyerdynamics in one ear, and an earplug in the other?? That would work...
fzrr
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Originally posted by Gluegun
Ah, but when you have that boomy headphone on one ear and a monitor blasting in another ear... you're gonna lose your hearing. :( Maybe one of those one-sided beyerdynamics in one ear, and an earplug in the other?? That would work...


Damn you type fast!! :D I usually have the ear which is on the monitor side fully in the can so it doesn't get blasted straight on. I haven't had any ringing in my ears after a 2hr session like this so i think i'm better off then the people dancing in front of or lying against the speakers! :p Having said that i am after a pair of those Etymotic ear plug thingies to trial them if anyone is feeling generous enough to post some to Australia :)
Gluegun
Well, regardless, you ARE assaulting your ears with high SPL over an extended amount of time, and it *WILL* permanantly damage your ears given enough time! The average spl of a dance club is maybe 110 dB, probably a lot more for the DJ, and it will NOT be long for you to damage your hearing because of that -- either by tinninitus or high frequency loss or something else... ESPECIALLY if you have to *turn the headphones up* to the point where it is PLAYING OVER the loud music BLASTING in your ears. There *HAS* to be a better way...

Really, would putting a single earplug in one ear and a one-sided, highly isolating headphone in another ear work for the extremely high spl environments? You could sue the club you're working for because they violated OHSA rules (causing them to never ask you to play there again, but it'd be money to buy the stuff in the first place for all the other clubs in town...), lol..
fzrr
Well i'll be more than willing to try the better way when we find it!!

Hmmm...you'll be saving that one ear with the earplug in it but you'll still be blasting the one with the headphone on it!!
Gluegun
No, *not* if your headphones isolate enough...

As far as I know, there are the HD280 Pro's, and the HFI-650's as the 'big isolation closed' headphones... there are other, industrial strength looking ones... um, would anyone want to use etymotic earphones, like the ER-6 or the ER4P for DJing?
ShadySlim
That's why I'll never go to any clubs even for drinking booze, and I'll never DJ... I'm extremely sensitive to very loud SPLs! :p
fzrr
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Originally posted by Gluegun
No, *not* if your headphones isolate enough...

As far as I know, there are the HD280 Pro's, and the HFI-650's as the 'big isolation closed' headphones... there are other, industrial strength looking ones... um, would anyone want to use etymotic earphones, like the ER-6 or the ER4P for DJing?


Sure if the headphones isolate enough your ears won't be damaged by the monitors, but what about the damage from the actually phones blaring directly into your ears!? Haven't people been saying for ages that headphones and those earbuds are damaging to your ears because they blast the sound directly into them??
Alccode
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Originally posted by fzrr
Sure if the headphones isolate enough your ears won't be damaged by the monitors, but what about the damage from the actually phones blaring directly into your ears!? Haven't people been saying for ages that headphones and those earbuds are damaging to your ears because they blast the sound directly into them??


The point is that if you have headphones that isolate well, you won't HAVE to crank them up so loud. Of course, in practice, this is easier said than done...

Don't entrust your hearing to headphones that supposedly isolate well. Cut to the source, and get some earplugs. :)
Michael Russo
Thanks everyone for all your help :) I think I'm going to go with the 7506's and the technics.

PS: You can also wear earplugs underneath your headphones for extra isolation!
fzrr
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Originally posted by Alccode
The point is that if you have headphones that isolate well, you won't HAVE to crank them up so loud. Of course, in practice, this is easier said than done...

Don't entrust your hearing to headphones that supposedly isolate well. Cut to the source, and get some earplugs. :)


True...my point is if you have headphones that isolate well AND have strong bass, even more so you won't have to crank them up so loud. :)

What i'm saying is that in a noisy environment i presently have to really crank up the 280s to hear the beat properly which in turn gives you an absolute earful of treble!! Some people like beatmatching with the hihats and symbols but i for one like my bass. Which is why my personal preference is now the Technics.

I thought the emphasis of this thread was that it was for input on what headphones are good for DJing but it seems it has turned into a save your hearing thread. Despite what you may think I value my hearing and look after my ears and my overall health...i take earplugs with me to every event because at the end of it all when i'm lying in bed trying to fall asleep the last thing i want is a ringing in my ears.

easy... :tongue3

end of rant...people still starving in Somalia and Australia still has a drought happening.

Gluegun
I know of SOME headphones that isolate well and have strong bass... the Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro come to mind, but those are BIG, and need an amp... and probably are too big to be used with one eared monitoring...

the Ultrasone HFI-650's MIGHT do the trick; i don't know...
bachatu
Talking about the HD280s... I actually got to listen to them at an audio store.
It seemed to have very little bass when compared to other headphones. They sounded clear, but very little bass. Keep in mind that they were all connected to the same source, playing the same track.

From the bunch, some that I heard were Sony MDR7509, Pioneer SDJ500, some AKG model, a Stanton one.

Stanton and AKG were just completely horrible.. muffled, distortion at higher volume.
Pioneer SJD500 sounded pretty good, but I think a bit muffled, so I guess overall imbalanced
Sony MDR7509 sounded the best.. Kind of like my 7506, but richer bass, clean highs, just nice. Maybe even a bit more natural than the 7506.. i really liked them, because they were not as bright as the 7506, but not muffled or over bass like the 700dj. The construction even appeared to be much more rugged than the 7506
Unfortunately, they didnt have the Technics RPDJ1200A available. They had some tier Sony's, but I didnt even bother to listen.
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