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| infinity HiGH |
| quote: | Originally posted by woscar
A Hydrogen bomb exploding pretty much in everyone's faces would kill them instantly. |
Well not necessarily. Maybe the energy coupled with the hydrogen bomb had some different effect? I'm still subscribing to the "Whatever Happened, Happened" theory and I believe that everything that has happened in the 70's was supposed to happen. The energy will be released somehow and they'll have to build a hatch around it with a computer that requires a sequence of numbers to be inputted every 108 minutes etc etc etc. This incident sends Jack and Co back to the present. Hence the fade to white ending. |
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| stren |
| when did Jack become such a badass ? shooting people, dodging bullets ? where is the whiny doctor ? |
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| kadomony |
time for some research.
to me, it seems like jacob/other guy are pretty friendly other than their assigned roles of light/dark good/evil.
almost like brothers.
so let's see if there's anything about 2 brothers, one good/one evil in egyptian mythology....
Osiris
Egyptian god of life and death. Osiris ruled the world of men in the beginning, after Ra had abandoned the world to rule the skies, but he was murdered by his brother Set. Through the magic of Isis, he was made to live again. Being the first living thing to die, he subsequently became lord of the dead.
Set
Egyptian god of darkness and evil. Known for murdering his brother, but was also revered as a protector of Egypt (hmmm maybe he IS the smoke monster?). Set was one of the earliest Egyptian deities, a god of the night often identified with the northern stars. He was variously hailed as a source of strength, and a protector, especially from the serpent Apep. Also known as Seth, Seti.
BING BING BING
I'm gonna make a prediction that the other guy's name will be revealed to be Seth.
Other stuff I'm probably reading WAY too much into:
Thoth (Alpert?)
Egyptian god of wisdom, considered to be a messenger between the gods and the god of the underworld. A vizier to Osiris. His animal symbols are the ibis and the baboon. He is a god of the moon, and is associated with magic, communication, time, mathematics, scholarship, music, medicine, astronomy, drawing and writing. Also known as Tahuti, Djeheuty.
Isis (probably going to be one of the characters)
Egyptian mother goddess of day and moisture. It was Isis who retrieved and reassembled the body of Osiris after his murder and dismemberment by Seth. Because of this she took on the role of a goddess of the dead and of funeral rites. Isis impregnated herself from the corpse and gave birth to Horus. She gave birth secretly and hid the child from Seth in the papyrus swamps. Horus later defeated Seth and became the first ruler of a united Egypt. Isis, as mother of Horus, was revered as the mother and protectress of the pharaohs.
Sebek (another one who will probably be revealed)
Egyptian crocodile god. Assists in the birth of Horus in the Egyptian Book of the Dead. Also known as Sobek.
Ra
Egyptian sun god, can be likened unto the Christian God, as a supreme deity and creator. He created the 8 great gods and the human race came from his tears. Usually depicted as a human with a falcon or ram head. The sun was either his eye or his body. He traveled the sky every day, passing over the lands and then going into the underworld. Because of this legend, he is considered to be the god of the underworld. Ra also stopped wars between humans because he was too decent to let them perish. (Valenzetti equation reference?)
Ptah
Egyptian creator god of Memphis, created the cosmos and the bodies in which man's souls dwelt. Some legends say he created things as Thoth directed him to. It is also said that he created the elder deities. His is shown as a bald man (Locke?), a scarab beetle, or a hawk. He can be invoked for stability.
well anyway, i could go on and on with characters that seem to have traits/actions of ancient egyptian gods.
what i think we have here is a large part of ancient egyptian mythology played out on the island. would be funny if every key character turns out to be an incarnation of some ancient deity/being.
one caveat though: Set(h) is sometimes portrayed as having red hair. jacob's current body has red hair. although this could totally be coincidence, but i'm keepin that in the back of my head.
more religious crossover connections to bake your noodle:
In the story of Cain and Abel we know Cain kills Abel. Cain is sometimes depicted as having red hair.
haha you know, the more i write about it, the more i'm moving to the previously suggested idea that the story has been flipped this time around (the loophole) and the one who is murdered is now the victor.
we'll see.
actually someone just mentioned that the island is Atlantis.
did some research and things seem to fit as well (egyptian connections, Cerberus being the guard to Hades, Hades having brothers, gods being unable to affect fate directly)
goddamn these storms of connections. |
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| d-miurge |
| quote: | Originally posted by kadomony
Isis (probably going to be one of the characters)
Egyptian mother goddess of day and moisture. It was Isis who retrieved and reassembled the body of Osiris after his murder and dismemberment by Seth. Because of this she took on the role of a goddess of the dead and of funeral rites. Isis impregnated herself from the corpse and gave birth to Horus. She gave birth secretly and hid the child from Seth in the papyrus swamps. Horus later defeated Seth and became the first ruler of a united Egypt. Isis, as mother of Horus, was revered as the mother and protectress of the pharaohs.
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Ilana?
And for Jacob, my opinion is that he's more Taweret than Osiris as mentioned before. |
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| malek |
You guys put way to much importance on which guy is which egyptian god, but forget that maybe the writers just used those mythologies to write Lost's entertaining plots (and speed their work a bit), and not to make the series about Osiris, Seth and friends.
My take on this:
-everyone on that island is dead in the 70s.
-They are dead, but their young selves are still alive off-island and will grow up fine.
-Jacob touched everyone who did wrong in their lives so that they change their paths and avoid that plane that fell on the island altogether.
-Season 6 is all about how those people grow up and somehow find each other and become frinds/couples without all the pains of the island.
-So this leaves two options for the writers: Jin waiting for Sun forever in an alternating reality, or Jin reappearing by magic to Sun to please the romantic viewers.
-Sayid, Hurley and the rest of the characters who weren't touched, stay on path within their lives, with very little changing other than not going on the island. |
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| shonguiz |
| What was the meaning of Jack's tattoo ? |
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| leebates1986 |
| quote: | Originally posted by shonguiz
What was the meaning of Jack's tattoo ? |
He walks amongst us, but he is not one of us. |
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| noikeee |
| quote: | Originally posted by malek
You guys put way to much importance on which guy is which egyptian god, but forget that maybe the writers just used those mythologies to write Lost's entertaining plots (and speed their work a bit), and not to make the series about Osiris, Seth and friends.
My take on this:
-everyone on that island is dead in the 70s.
-They are dead, but their young selves are still alive off-island and will grow up fine.
-Jacob touched everyone who did wrong in their lives so that they change their paths and avoid that plane that fell on the island altogether.
-Season 6 is all about how those people grow up and somehow find each other and become frinds/couples without all the pains of the island.
-So this leaves two options for the writers: Jin waiting for Sun forever in an alternating reality, or Jin reappearing by magic to Sun to please the romantic viewers.
-Sayid, Hurley and the rest of the characters who weren't touched, stay on path within their lives, with very little changing other than not going on the island. |
That would make for a ridiculously boring soap opera season. Can't see that happening at all. |
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| malek |
| Well i'm not a writer, so I suck at spicing this up, but I'm sure Lost writers will make it more interesting... but the essence should be the same. |
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| shonguiz |
| I also seriously doubt they will literally implement the egyptian mythology, that would be a disgrace to the show, they will take inspiration from it to depict the Jacob/Other guy/island story but that's it. |
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| woscar |
| quote: | Originally posted by malek
Well i'm not a writer, so I suck at spicing this up, but I'm sure Lost writers will make it more interesting... but the essence should be the same. |
It's exactly this "essence" that you describe that is . The last two seasons are about answering all the mysteries that have arised during the course of the show, and providing a conclusion to the story as a whole. What you suggested provides neither. |
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