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Do you believe there is a U.S. government cover-up surrounding 9/11? (pg. 114)
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by culorut
I'm sorry what where you saying? Feel free to scroll down to the "Engineers" section in the second of my next two posts.
Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth
Architects
(Degreed & Licensed)
Richard Gage, AIA, Architect
Walnut Creek, CA
Don Gibbons, Architect
Pleasant Hill, CA
Jeff Arnold, Architect
Orinda, CA
John Cole, Architect
Walnut Creek, CA
David Crawford, Architect
Walnut Creek, CA
Haluk Akol, Architect & Structural Engineer
Lafayette, CA
John Eisenhart, Architect
San Diego, CA
Joe Bellows, Architect
Martinez, CA
John Howland, Architect
Walnut Creek, CA
Eric Douglas, Architect
Howard Beach, NY
Peter Hendrickson, Architect
Santa Rosa, CA
Osvaldo Valdes, Architect
New York, NY
Lily Livingston, AIA, Architect
Oakland, CA
Chris Swigert, Architect
Oakland, CA
Jim Bedinghaus, Architect
St. Petersburg, Florida
Christian Mungenast AIA, Architect
Arlington, MA
Mickey Propadovich, Architect
Evanston, Illinois
Michael C. Coffey, AIA, Architect
New York, NY
Dennis Holloway, Architect, Architect
Rio Rancho, NM
Michael E. Balay, Architect
Fishers, Indiana
Ronald F. Avery, Architect
Seguin, Texas
Bruce Richey, AIA, Architect
Ashland, Oregon
Architectural Professionals
(Degreed)
Scott Page, M. Arch / Designer
Berkeley, CA
Jeffrey Tam, Architectural Professional
Oakland, CA
Oscar Cisnero, Architectural Professional
Antioch, CA
Elwin Wong, Architectural Professional
Oakland, CA
Henri Tso, Architectural Professional
Walnut Creek, CA
Arthur Stopes, Planner
Berkeley, CA
Ken Huthcinson, Architectural Professional
Eugene, OR
Jan Leits, Architectural Professional
Berkeley, CA
Michael Reuter, Architectural Professional
Berkeley, CA
Chris Jung, Architectural Professional
Berkeley, CA
Tim Clark, Architectural Professional
Albany, CA
Jason Wilkinson, Architectural Professional
Berkeley, CA
Wendy Sitler, Designer
Berkeley, CA
Dominique Roddier, phD, Naval Architect
Berkeley, CA
Karlene Gullone, Architectural Professional
San Francisco, CA
Dave Heller, Architectural Professional
Berkeley, CA
Kurt Worthington, Urban Planner
San Francisco, CA
Travis Van Brasch, Associate AIA, Design Principal
San Francisco, CA
Arnold A. Valdez M.Arch, Designer/Planner
Santa Fe, New Mexico
Justin Feider, Intern Architect
Denver, Colorado
Alan S. Glassman, M. Arch., Associate AIA, CSI, SA, Architectural Research Consultant
Lancaster, Pennsylvania
Am Amnusydcjkorn, Designer
Berkeley, CA |
and where on earth are their peer-reviewed analyses of the collapses? your side of the fence has been obsessed with this for 6 years, and you STILL don't have a proper research paper put forward for all the world to critique. until you have something like that, cutting and pasting random names means absolutely nothing. until these ghost engineers actually present a peer-reviewed paper then theyre just random names on a page. |
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| colonelcrisp |
get ready for yet another dissapointing fact
Jon Marino - is not licensed as a engineer from teh state of arizona, unlike the scholars for 911 truth say.... http://www.btr.state.az.us/
James Brooks, B. Civil Eng, University of Texas, Engineering Consultant
Austin, TX
-also not a licensed engineer in texas.... and could face up to 25000 dollars in fines for callin himself one
o my, third name i looked up at random
Joseph Testa, P.E., Civil Engineer
Thousand Oaks, CA
also never licensed as a PE in california, although is credentials sure make it look like he is licensed.... but he isnt currently nor was he ever licensed. so far i guess the whole list is populated by idiots AND liars....
id spend my day going through and systematically refuting every credential you posted but unfortunatly some of us who are REGISTERED AND LICENSED need to do some work........ |
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| colonelcrisp |
while im conitnuing on my rant. the whole purpose of licensing engineers is to allow a forum for each applicant to have his skills and qualifications reviewed by a group of his peers. In the US, anyone wishing to be licensed as an engineer must complete a 8 hour fundamentals of engineering exam, and 4 years of pertinent work experience followed by a priciples and pratices exam. Im currently licensed as an EIT in ontario and im in the process of applying for the same designation in New York state. when people go about putting designations beside their names that they havent earned it pisses me off.
frankly im tempted to send letters to the state licensing boards for all of these idiots listed above and have them all take to court for breaking the state professional engineering bills. |
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| colonelcrisp |
more lying swine
David Wilkins, Electrical Engineer
San Jose, CA
not a licensed engineer.......
J. Marx Ayres, PE, Mechanical Engineer
Santa Monica, CA
-lost his license in 98 for undisclosed disciplinary action....
Nazareth "Blue" Lansing, Engineer
Houston, TX
-nope not him either....
Dr. Michael Voschine, PhD., Structural Engineer
Miami, Florida
-big fancy Phd... and still not a registered or licensed engineer in the state of florida....
Peter Gibbons P.E., Professional Engineer
Mccausland,, Iowa
-not this guy either
i find this mildly relaxing |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
en lol.
*heats up the oven to serve cretinrot some humble pie* |
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| culorut |
| There are a lot more people on that list to go CC, by the way where are you getting this information from that they are not licensed? |
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| colonelcrisp |
| quote: | Originally posted by culorut
There are a lot more people on that list to go CC, by the way where are you getting this information from that they are not licensed? |
state licensing boards. part of the mandate of the professional engineering regulation is that the governing bodies must maintain a public listing of all practicing licensed engineers. the public is entitled to inquire into the name, license number and current employer of any PE
in the list of "licensed engineers" only two held a valid PE, neither of which being in civil engineering, one was mech and one was elec. neither of which posess any credible strucutral engineering experience |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by colonelcrisp
state licensing boards. part of the mandate of the professional engineering regulation is that the governing bodies must maintain a public listing of all practicing licensed engineers. the public is entitled to inquire into the name, license number and current employer of any PE
in the list of "licensed engineers" only two held a valid PE, neither of which being in civil engineering, one was mech and one was elec. neither of which posess any credible strucutral engineering experience |
i wouldnt necessarily be blaming the "engineers" for this dishonesty-i would blame the truth movement if their previous activities are anything to go by
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as you can see, they'll attach any name to their list of believers, as if a longer list somehow adds credibility :rolleyes: |
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| shaolin_Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
and where on earth are their peer-reviewed analyses of the collapses? your side of the fence has been obsessed with this for 6 years, and you STILL don't have a proper research paper put forward for all the world to critique. until you have something like that, cutting and pasting random names means absolutely nothing. until these ghost engineers actually present a peer-reviewed paper then theyre just random names on a page. |
LOL, still haven't had enough. |
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| culorut |
| quote: | Originally posted by colonelcrisp
state licensing boards. part of the mandate of the professional engineering regulation is that the governing bodies must maintain a public listing of all practicing licensed engineers. the public is entitled to inquire into the name, license number and current employer of any PE
in the list of "licensed engineers" only two held a valid PE, neither of which being in civil engineering, one was mech and one was elec. neither of which posess any credible strucutral engineering experience |
So because they are not licensed this means they do not know what they are talking about?
If you are implying no I find this very hard to believe as I know quite a few individuals with plenty of experience and I will take that over some sort of license or piece of paper any day of the week.
One of my good friends once said "what the hell do I need that ring for" when he was already moving up in the ranks of his engineering position.
My friend was referring to the engineering ring for those wondering to what kind ring I am mentioning above. Some like to show off there credentials as others simply do not. At the end of the day it is whoever will get the job done and get it done right. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by culorut
So because they are not licensed this means they do not know what they are talking about?
If you are implying no I find this very hard to believe as I know quite a few individuals with plenty of experience and I will take that over some sort of license or piece of paper any day of the week.
One of my good friends once said "what the hell do I need that ring for" when he was already moving up in the ranks of his engineering position.
My friend was referring to the engineering ring for those wondering to what kind ring I am mentioning above. Some like to show off there credentials as others simply do not. At the end of the day it is whoever will get the job done and get it done right. |
lol! so first cretinrot posts a bunch of names he did not research properly first, to add credence to his wingnut ideas, then when those names turn out to be bogus, he says they dont really matter anyway :haha: oh these guys just get better and better.
credentials might not matter to you cretinrot, but the lack of ANY research done by these people SHOULD be a matter for concern. but i guess you're just happy with names on a page.
but here IS a paper written by structural engineers that HAS received vigorous peer review. funny that they dont think there were any explosives...
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The version linked above, to appear in the Journal of Engineering Mechanics (ASCE), was revised and extended (with Yong Zhou on September 22 and additional appendices on September 28) since the original text of September 13, which was immediately posted at various civil engineering web sites, e.g. University of Illinios. It also has been or soon will be published in a number of other journals, including Archives of Applied Mechanics, Studi i Ricerche, and SIAM News:
Z. P. Bazant and Y. Zhou, "Why Did the World Trade Center Collapse?", Society for Industrial and Applied Mathematics News, vol. 34, No. 8 (October, 2001).
That means it's not just a document, book, web site or calculation on a forum. It's had to pass critical review by other engineering Professors.
I know there are CT sites which attack this paper but not one person has yet to disprove its hypothesis professionally. There are still people attacking the theory of evolution. Anyone can attack, not many can produce a paper to back it up. Just as there is no "theory of intelligent design" except on Christian web sites, there are no alternatives to this paper other than in CT sites and books." |
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| culorut |
This new half hour documentary is spreading like wildfire on the net at the moment. 9/11 is much more than having licensed engineers peer review papers.
Why on earth did the US let the man who funded the hijackers $100,000 left untouched as if nothing ever happened? Fuk it's not even mentioned in the 9/11 commission report!
I would want to talk to the guy who gave the money to the hijackers but then again if ISI=CIA then this is exactly why it is not mentioned, cannot have any of that now can we.... |
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