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Do you believe there is a U.S. government cover-up surrounding 9/11? (pg. 170)
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culorut
Someone seems to be doing in the trolls in the same way they litter the threads on this board.

Please do not feed them anymore, reserve the bandwidth for people with common sense.
colonelcrisp
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Originally posted by culorut
Someone seems to be doing in the trolls in the same way they litter the threads on this board.




english mother ******. DO YOU SPEAK IT?
Spike
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Originally posted by colonelcrisp
english mother ******. DO YOU SPEAK IT?


im sorry what:haha:
colonelcrisp
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Originally posted by Spike
im sorry what:haha:


say what one more time... i double dare you mother******...
andrewyates
I can't believe people still believe this stuff. Wow.
culorut
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Originally posted by andrewyates
I can't believe people still believe this stuff. Wow.


Yes it is incredible, more people believe in it compared to the bull official story.
andrewyates
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Originally posted by culorut
Yes it is incredible, more people believe in it compared to the bull official story.


yawn.
Krypton
I think 50 years from now, we will be shocked at what we may find out about September 11, 2001. Right now, it's just too soon. Information is impossible to delete. Whatever the truth is, it will come out, and until then, nobody knows what the they're talking about. No one knows the truth. That enough is a shame.
pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by culorut
Yes it is incredible, more people believe in it compared to the bull official story.


how on earth do you come to that assumption? if that were the case there would be a new investigation, or you'd have a peer-reviewed scientific analysis, or you'd have the ear of the media.

you got nothing.

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Originally posted by Krypton
I think 50 years from now, we will be shocked at what we may find out about September 11, 2001. Right now, it's just too soon. Information is impossible to delete. Whatever the truth is, it will come out, and until then, nobody knows what the they're talking about. No one knows the truth. That enough is a shame.


and which important details are we still missing? :conf:
Krypton
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
and which important details are we still missing? :conf:


Many things...but especially...

Why were Bin Laden family associates and Saudi nationals allowed to fly after the order was given to ground all flights?

The Bush Family is in bed with big oil and Saudi Arabia. I think we should forget about the speculative stuff the truth movement talks about, and dig deeper into the relationship between the Bushs, Bin Ladens, and Saudis. Something is ed up about it, and I'M NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE!!:mad: :D

pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by Krypton
Why were Bin Laden family associates and Saudi nationals allowed to fly after the order was given to ground all flights?


FBI checked those leaving and they were not considered a security risk, they were rushed out of the country to avoid reprisals because every man and his dog (including me) knew who the number 1 suspect had to be.

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Originally posted by Krypton
The Bush Family is in bed with big oil and Saudi Arabia. I think we should forget about the speculative stuff the truth movement talks about, and dig deeper into the relationship between the Bushs, Bin Ladens, and Saudis. Something is ed up about it, and I'M NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE!!:mad: :D


why? what do you really expect to find by such an investigation? that the bush family has business ties to oil? who cares?

what should be under the microscope is the lack of pressure the US (and others) put on saudi arabia to democratise and sufferagate (is that even a word, haha?).
Krypton
For those not in the know, this is a summary of Judicial Watch investigations...

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At least 13 relatives of Osama bin Laden, accompanied by bodyguards and associates, were allowed to leave the United States on a chartered flight eight days after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, according to a passenger manifest released on July 21, 2004.[16] The passenger list was made public by Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ), who obtained the manifest from officials at Boston's Logan International Airport.

Among the passengers with the bin Laden surname were Omar Awad bin Laden, who had lived with OBL nephew Abdallah Osama bin Laden who was involved in forming the U.S. branch of the World Assembly of Muslim Youth in Alexandria, and Shafig bin Laden, a half brother of OBL who was reportedly attending the annual investor conference of the Carlyle Group

Also on board were Akberali Moawalla, an official with the investment company run by Yeslam bin Laden, another of Osama bin Laden's half brothers. Records show that a passenger, Kholoud Kurdi, lived in Northern Virginia with a bin Laden relative.

The bin Laden flight has received fresh publicity because it was a topic in Michael Moore's anti-Bush documentary, "Fahrenheit 9/11."

In mid-July 2007 Judicial Watch released new documents from the FBI related to the "expeditious departure" of Saudi nationals, including members of the bin Laden family, from the United States following the 9/11 attacks. According to one of the formerly confidential FBI documents, dated September 21, 2001, terrorist Osama bin Laden may have chartered one of the Saudi flights.

This news garnered international headlines.

The document specifically states: "ON 9/19/01, A 727 PLANE LEFT LAX, RYAN FLT #441 TO ORLANDO, FL W/ETA (estimated time of arrival) OF 4-5PM. THE PLANE WAS CHARTERED EITHER BY THE SAUDI ARABIAN ROYAL FAMILY OR OSAMA BIN LADEN...THE LA FBI SEARCHED THE PLANE [REDACTED] LUGGAGE, OF WHICH NOTHING UNUSUAL WAS FOUND."

Even considering a possible direct bin Laden link to the flight, it was allowed to depart the United States after making four stops to pick up passengers, ultimately landing in Paris where all passengers disembarked on September 20, 2001, according to the document.

Overall, the FBI documents uncovered by Judicial Watch include details of the six flights between September 14 and September 24 that evacuated Saudi royals and bin Laden family members. The documents also contain brief interview summaries and occasional notes from intelligence analysts concerning the cursory screening performed prior to the departures. Only 4 of 100 passengers on three Saudi flights leaving Las Vegas between September 19 and September 24 were questioned by agents.

The documents contain numerous errors and inconsistencies. On one document the FBI claims to have interviewed 20 of 23 passengers on the Ryan International Airlines flight (commonly referred to as the "Bin Laden Family Flight"). On another document, however, the FBI claims to have interviewed 15 of 22 passengers on the same flight.

Judicial Watch lawyers obtained a court order from U.S. District Court Judge Richard W. Roberts requiring the FBI to resubmit "proper disclosures" to the Court and Judicial Watch. The judge had previously criticized the adequacy of redaction descriptions, the validity of exemption claims, and other errors in the FBI's disclosures. The FBI had previously redacted Osama bin Laden's name from the records in order "to protect privacy interests."


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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
FBI checked those leaving and they were not considered a security risk, they were rushed out of the country to avoid reprisals because every man and his dog (including me) knew who the number 1 suspect had to be.


Not good enough. Even though there could have been possible connections to Osama bin Laden, bin Laden family and Saudi family associates were allowed to leave the country during a no-fly decree, and on top of that, only 4 of 100 passengers on three Saudi flights leaving Las Vegas between September 19 and September 24 were questioned by agents.

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why? what do you really expect to find by such an investigation? that the bush family has business ties to oil? who cares?


A lot of people care. We all know this invasion of Iraq was never justified. So what was the motivation? There is plenty of incentive to believe it was all about oil hegemony. Notice how oil prices have increased more since 2001 than at any other time in history.



I believe the consumers should revolt against the oil hegemony, because oil is not worth over $100 a barrel. It is a completely inflated price, and the oil aristocracy are profiting at the expense of the consumers. This, my friend, is not true capitalism. It is redistribution of wealth, and them for doing it.

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what should be under the microscope is the lack of pressure the US (and others) put on saudi arabia to democratise and sufferagate (is that even a word, haha?).


AGREED;) If any country deserves a good invasion, it's those Saudi terrorist POS which the Bush family is wacking off every night..
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