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Do you believe there is a U.S. government cover-up surrounding 9/11? (pg. 234)
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| XaNaX |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
"no-plane" takes the cake as the stupidest theory about that day.
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lol man no the best part is that regular truthers (people who are borderline bat insane) even ridicule the no-planers as complete idiots. that site I posted some time ago debunking the pentacon was basically blasting them for being so stupid that they discredit the rest of the truther movement. |
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| Trancer-X |
| quote: | Originally posted by XaNaX
lol man no the best part is that regular truthers (people who are borderline bat insane) even ridicule the no-planers as complete idiots. that site I posted some time ago debunking the pentacon was basically blasting them for being so stupid that they discredit the rest of the truther movement. |
What exactly is a truther, anyway? I mean, I know a lot of people who share skepticism about the official theory of 9-11 but they all seem to differ somewhat in their opinions about what might have or what could have really happened. Many of them are so-called "professionals", are extremely well educated and often possess more than a few college degrees but I don't think that any of them call or consider themselves "truthers" (but of course I could also be unaware that they in fact do.)
So on what level or to what degree of skepticism does one have to employ in order to be called a "truther" and is there much of a difference between being a truther and being a "conspiracy theorist"?
The way I see it, they both seem to be thought-terminating cliché's but I don't want to make a snap judgement based solely on rationality, especially if there is in fact some sort of criteria which I'm unaware of here. :stongue: |
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| ogvh5150 |
it's been a while but the more things change the more they stay the same. Like this post. I thought this thing was gonna die or be locked but it hasn't. Sure there a gnomes and trolls that wish it to be closed for only they can be the sheep that listens to the official story. They refuse to use those inquisitive axions and neurons that make their feeble minds work to find what Sherlock Holmes had said “When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.”
The poll numbers don't lie either.
Thanks to those for or against the official story that keep this post and it's poll alive. |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
this is not what a building looks like after a plane collides with it. 12 ft. laugh out loud
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Where did you get that picture? That's not even the exterior of the Pentagon. The "No Parking" sign is a dead giveaway if the color of the break and absence of windows wasn't already. That looks like the side of a high school gymnasium.
I don't see your tiny little hole anywhere in this picture. |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
| So wait, now that picture is of one of the inner rings of the Pentagon? So there's parking in the interior courtyards? Wow, must take some fancy driving to get cars in there. |
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| Capitalizt |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trancer-X
You said that it "slid" into the Pentagon. So why were there no marks on the lawn before they came in and layed down that heavy layer of dirt?
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damn, that video is a smoking gun IMO. No broken windows on the building...No wing marks..no tail marks..an "entrance" hole smaller than the cockpit...a pristine lawn in front of the impact zone when it should have been SHREDDED by engine turbulence on the way down.. |
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| Trancer-X |
| quote: | Originally posted by Capitalizt
damn, that video is a smoking gun IMO. No broken windows on the building...No wing marks..no tail marks..an "entrance" hole smaller than the cockpit...a pristine lawn in front of the impact zone when it should have been SHREDDED by engine turbulence on the way down.. |
I thought this page was kind of funny (in some sort of demented way)
http://killtown.911review.org/pentalawn.html |
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| Trancer-X |
| quote: | Originally posted by dcougar99
the what the fuk did this to the 3rd inner ring (C)??? something had the mass now didnt it!?!?
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This page seemed to have a lot of info but I just glanced over it and haven't verified how accurate it might be:
http://www.pentagonresearch.com/exit.html |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by ogvh5150
They refuse to use those inquisitive axions and neurons that make their feeble minds work to find what Sherlock Holmes had said “When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.” |
10 characteristics of conspiracy theorists
A useful guide by Donna Ferentes
4. Fondness for certain stock phrases. These include Cicero's "cui bono?" (of which it can be said that Cicero understood the importance of having evidence to back it up) and Conan Doyle's "once we have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however unlikely, must be the truth". What these phrases have in common is that they are attempts to absolve themselves from any responsibility to produce positive, hard evidence themselves: you simply "eliminate the impossible" (i.e. say the official account can't stand scrutiny) which means that the wild allegation of your choice, based on "cui bono?" (which is always the government) is therefore the truth.
LOL. |
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| Capitalizt |
omg :wtf: :stongue: :stongue: :stongue: |
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| {b.s.e.} |
http://www.americanfreepress.net/ht..._solved118.html
ITALIAN SAYS 9-11 SOLVED
It’s common knowledge, he reveals, CIA, Mossad behind terror attacks
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By the Staff of American Free Press
Former Italian President Francesco Cossiga, who revealed the existence of Operation Gladio, has told Italy’s oldest and most widely read newspaper that the 9-11 terrorist attacks were run by the CIA and Mossad, and that this was common knowledge among global intelligence agencies. In what translates awkwardly into English, Cossiga told the newspaper Corriere della Sera:
“All the [intelligence services] of America and Europe…know well that the disastrous attack has been planned and realized from the Mossad, with the aid of the Zionist world in order to put under accusation the Arabic countries and in order to induce the western powers to take part … in Iraq [and] Afghanistan.”
Cossiga was elected president of the Italian Senate in July 1983 before winning a landslide election to become president of the country in 1985, and he remained until 1992.
Cossiga’s tendency to be outspoken upset the Italian political establishment, and he was forced to resign after revealing the existence of, and his part in setting up, Operation Gladio. This was a rogue intelligence network under NATO auspices that carried out bombings across Europe in the 1960s, 1970s and ’80s. Gladio’s specialty was to carry out what they termed “false flag” operations—terror attacks that were blamed on their domestic and geopolitical opposition.
In March 2001, Gladio agent Vincenzo Vinciguerra stated, in sworn testimony, “You had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple: to force … the public to turn to the state to ask for greater security.”
Cossiga first expressed his doubts about 9-11 in 2001, and is quoted by 9-11 researcherWebster Tarpley saying “The mastermind of the attack must have been a sophisticated mind, provided with ample means not only to recruit fanatic kamikazes, but also highly specialized personnel. I add one thing: it could not be accomplished without infiltrations in the radar and
flight security personnel.”
Coming from a widely respected former head of state, Cossiga’s assertion that the 9-11 attacks were an inside job and that this is common knowledge among global intelligence agencies is illuminating. It is one more eye-opening confirmation that has not been mentioned by America’s propaganda machine in print or on TV. Nevertheless, because of his experience and status in the world, Cossiga cannot be discounted as a crackpot.
(Issue #52, December 24, 2007)
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And I'm of course to assume that he's also a tinhatter? Heh. When are you going to concede that you're relying on bull information and ignoring the painfully obvious? I'm not addressing anyone in particular, you're all the same, in a disappointing way. It's like staring at a stereogram and not seeing the sailboat.. a failure.
The fact that the President lied about his first knowledge of the planes hitting the building is so damning, coupled by the fact that when caught off guard about whether or not he knew of the attacks prior to 9-11 he fell apart and could barely utter a complete sentence.
$40,000,000 was spent investigating Bill Clinton. $600,000 has been spent on the 9-11 Attack..wow. Really? That's like 15 minutes of war in Iraq.
Not to mention the Commission investigating the whole ordeal was filled with crooked lawyers, oil company directors, ex military officers and ex-senators.
doesn't it make you think "Hey, something's up!" When BBC reports that Building 7 collapsed 20 minutes before it actually did?
Talk about denial coupled with a false sense of patriotism. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
And I'm of course to assume that he's also a tinhatter? Heh. When are you going to concede that you're relying on bull information and ignoring the painfully obvious? I'm not addressing anyone in particular, you're all the same, in a disappointing way. It's like staring at a stereogram and not seeing the sailboat.. a failure. |
LOL. what is it with you guys on a constant rinse-repeat cycle? this has been posted numerous times.
cossiga wasn't saying what you're trying to make it sound like he said. he is a rightwing conservative politician and he was mocking the italian centre left (in his support of the current administration) and throwing out those comments in mockery.
i wish you guys would bother to research outside the BS tinfoil hat sites you swallow as gospel. if you'll notice, there isn't a single non-truther site that repeats this, because the truthers are the only ones that don't understand context.
and in any case, his opinion is irrelevant. lots of people believe in god, doesn't make them right. |
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