Tell me again how a 757 made that hole in the pentagon? Because of that ty 5 frame video they released out of how many available camera views?
Who is really making the leap in judgement?
You s are all about sticking to the story, and won't lend critical thinking in any criteria you've deemed 'truthist'.
STFU truther jackass I have discredited every claim you have made recently in this thread and exposed every post you have made as being full of lies, half-truths, and false "evidence". Stop trolling this thread until you can answer the following (I'm now asking for the 6th or 7th time):
1. If Flight 77 did not hit the Pentagon what did? Please back your claim up with actual real evidence not more questions.
2. If Flight 77 did not hit the Pentagon where is the plane, its crew, and all its passengers? Please back your claim up with real hard evidence.
I have posted multiple pieces of evidence showing that a Boeing 757 crashed at the Pentagon. If you choose not to look at the links and review the evidence that is not my problem, I realize you are a simpleton and it is a lot to read but I'm not posting the same stuff over and over. You have not posted jack except more questions and a few stupid ass pictures that are not even relevant and only prove that you don't have even a basic understanding of physics or engineering. You have turned into an even bigger truther tard than cretinrut, you fit all of these to a T:
10 characteristics of conspiracy theorists
A useful guide by Donna Ferentes
1. Arrogance. They are always fact-seekers, questioners, people who are trying to discover the truth: sceptics are always "sheep", patsies for Messrs Bush and Blair etc.
2. Relentlessness. They will always go on and on about a conspiracy no matter how little evidence they have to go on or how much of what they have is simply discredited. (Moreover, as per 1. above, even if you listen to them ninety-eight times, the ninety-ninth time, when you say "no thanks", you'll be called a "sheep" again.) Additionally, they have no capacity for precis whatsoever. They go on and on at enormous length.
3. Inability to answer questions. For people who loudly advertise their determination to the principle of questioning everything, they're pretty poor at answering direct questions from sceptics about the claims that they make.
5. Inability to employ or understand Occam's Razor. Aided by the principle in 4. above, conspiracy theorists never notice that the small inconsistencies in the accounts which they reject are dwarfed by the enormous, gaping holes in logic, likelihood and evidence in any alternative account.
6. Inability to tell good evidence from bad. Conspiracy theorists have no place for peer-review, for scientific knowledge, for the respectability of sources. The fact that a claim has been made by anybody, anywhere, is enough for them to reproduce it and demand that the questions it raises be answered, as if intellectual enquiry were a matter of responding to every rumour. While they do this, of course, they will claim to have "open minds" and abuse the sceptics for apparently lacking same.
7. Inability to withdraw. It's a rare day indeed when a conspiracy theorist admits that a claim they have made has turned out to be without foundation, whether it be the overall claim itself or any of the evidence produced to support it. Moreover they have a liking (see 3. above) for the technique of avoiding discussion of their claims by "swamping" - piling on a whole lot more material rather than respond to the objections sceptics make to the previous lot.
culorut
HOW ABOUT THIS.....IF FLIGHT 77 HIT THE PENTAGON WHERE THE HELL IS IT? SHOULD BE QUITE EASY AFTER 7 YEARS AND AN "OFFICIAL" INVESTIGATION.
SHOW SOME REAL EVIDENCE, FACTS OR PROOF.
MORON.
culorut
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the fact that they found dead bodies from flight 77 and the fact that there were hundreds of witnesses is enough for me.
Provide back up to these claims, post links to the dead bodies recovered which are DNA matched. Do not forget to post links to where these "witnesses" were able to identify that a plane they saw in the sky was in fact Flight 77 and not just another plane in the sky. Do you have any idea how many planes are in mid air in that area?
It has been 7 years and this type of information has never surfaced, good luck trolling away. I am betting you will use some pasted bull from your 10 points of blah blah blah as a reply because you really do not have a fuking clue.
pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by culorut
Provide back up to these claims, post links to the dead bodies recovered which are DNA matched. Do not forget to post links to where these "witnesses" were able to identify that a plane they saw in the sky was in fact Flight 77 and not just another plane in the sky. Do you have any idea how many planes are in mid air in that area?
It has been 7 years and this type of information has never surfaced, good luck trolling away. I am betting you will use some pasted bull from your 10 points of blah blah blah as a reply because you really do not have a fuking clue.
i have already posted both on multiple occasions before. in this thread, and in others. i don't see why i must repeatedly do that considering none of you are in the least bit interested.
there are multiple pages all over the net that provide eye-witness testimony to the passenger jet hitting the pentagon. i never said they knew it was "flight 77", but they did see a large passenger jet, that flew into the building.
he even names it as an "american airlines" plane.
refute that champ.
and look, its an online video, coz i know you guys love them so very much.
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he Armed Forces Institute of Pathology at Walter Reed was involved in identifying victims at the Pentagon. Identification took place at a lab at Dover Air Force Base, as well as another lab in Rockville, Maryland.[3]
Many of the remains were badly burned, but remains for all but five of the victims were identified. Remains were also found belonging to the five hijackers.[1] Over 50 forensic specialists and other personnel were involved in identifying the remains.[3]
Remains of one passenger, Lang Steuerle, were recovered on the third floor. (see diagram)
Remains of additional passengers were recovered during debris sifting operations: Mary Jane Booth, Charles F. Burlingame III (pilot), David M. Charlebois (first officer), Eddie A. Dillard, Barbara Edwards, Dana Falkenberg, Stanley R. Hall, Yvonne E. Kennedy, Christopher C. Newton, Robert Penninger, Zandra F. Ploger, Lisa J. Raines, Diane M. Simmons, John D. Yamnicky, Sr., Shuyin Yang. Remains of other victims (non-passengers) at the Pentagon were also recovered during debris sifting operations: John J. Chada, Julian T. Cooper, Brenda C. Gibson, Ronald F. Golinski, ET1 Ronald J. Hemenway, James T. Lynhc, Rhonda S. Rasmussen, Antoinette M. Sherman.
Photographs of victim remains at the Pentagon were presented at the Moussaoui trial:
so i guess that's another 50 forensic experts you need to add to the conspiracy, how many people are in on it now?
so, answer us the ing question.
where did the remains of the people that flew on flight 77 come from if not from flight 77??
or shut the up. both of you idiots. denialist tards both of you.
culorut
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he even names it as an "american airlines" plane.
Do you have any idea how many American Airlines planes are in the sky? How the fuk can a person identify from the ground if it was Flight 77?
You believe the media more then you realize idiot.
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so i guess that's another 50 forensic experts you need to add to the conspiracy, how many people are in on it now?
Bull , they matched DNA to dead bodies. This does not prove Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon.
Show us Flight 77 crashing into the Pentagon troll. Just answer the fukin question.
culorut
Pentagon 9/11 Flight 'Black Box' Data File Created Before Actual 'Black Box' Was Recovered?
A flight data file created by the downloaded Flight Data Recorder information of American Airlines flight 77 was created on Thursday, September 13, 2001 at 11:45pm.
However, as reported by USA Today, Pentagon spokesman Army Lt. Col. George Rhynedance reported that the FDR for AA 77 was recovered on Friday, September 14, 2001 at 4am, 4 hours and 15 minutes after the creation of the AA 77 FDR data file.
WASHINGTON (AP) — Searchers on Friday found the flight data and cockpit voice recorders from the hijacked plane that flew into the Pentagon and exploded, Department of Defense officials said. The two "black boxes," crucial to uncovering details about the doomed flight's last moments, were recovered at about 4 a.m., said Army Lt. Col. George Rhynedance, a Pentagon spokesman.
Originally posted by culorut
Do you have any idea how many American Airlines planes are in the sky? How the fuk can a person identify from the ground if it was Flight 77?
You believe the media more then you realize idiot.
Bull , they matched DNA to dead bodies. This does not prove Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon.
Show us Flight 77 crashing into the Pentagon troll. Just answer the fukin question.
So now you're saying that another American Airlines plane hit the Pentagon? I really don't know where you're going with this.
Lebezniatnikov
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Originally posted by culorut
[SIZE=6]HOW ABOUT THIS.....IF FLIGHT 77 HIT THE PENTAGON WHERE THE HELL IS IT? SHOULD BE QUITE EASY AFTER 7 YEARS AND AN "OFFICIAL" INVESTIGATION.
SHOW SOME REAL EVIDENCE, FACTS OR PROOF.[]
MORON.
Ummm... in the Pentagon and distributed across the Pentagon lawn? Is this a trick question?
Lebezniatnikov
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Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_
So when you went to Hiroshima for the 37th time, surely you must've remmebered the other buildings that were still standing?
It's worth mentioning that the building you posted was the only building in a huge radius left standing... how does that exception to the rule somehow lend credence to the fact that a building 200 times bigger shouldn't have collapsed in an entirely different circumstance?
And :stongue: at your claim that since that building was left standing after a nuclear blast, the WTC surely would have been left standing as well.
Lebezniatnikov
Whenever I need a good laugh, I come to this thread. I didn't know people could function in the real world with such an absence of sound logic.
culorut
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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
So now you're saying that another American Airlines plane hit the Pentagon? I really don't know where you're going with this.
Not at all, if someone saw a plane in the sky how is it that they can prove it was Flight 77? Do these eyewitness have super powers which enable them to read the markings on the airliner to identify it?
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Ummm... in the Pentagon and distributed across the Pentagon lawn? Is this a trick question?
Really? So pieces of an airliner pierced a hole in the Pentagon (rein enforced concrete, thick metal) and also remained on the lawn??? Sounds a little suspicious to me, you cannot have it both ways.
Besides none of "parts" recovered where ever directly matched to Flight 77 serial numbers.
colonelcrisp
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Originally posted by culorut
Really? So pieces of an airliner pierced a hole in the Pentagon (rein enforced concrete, thick metal) and also remained on the lawn??? Sounds a little suspicious to me, you cannot have it both ways.
Besides none of "parts" recovered where ever directly matched to Flight 77 serial numbers.
if that is the whole premis of your case, its pretty weak......
first of all, when you think REINFORCED concrete, think pieces of steel no thicker than your thumb placed every 10 to 12 inches. The steel is there to provide tensile reinforcement, and in wall systems there isn't much of it. Even in over enforced systems, you only have about 2% steel by cross sectional area.
and as for the serial numbers.......
1- They have pieces of a airplane all over the scene
2- They find bodies of passengers in the building
3- AA flight 77 is missing and no one has found it
A rational and logical person would conclude that the thing that hit the pentagon was flight 77. Why would they need to piece together the whole plane? the FAA only does that in crashes when they would like to find out what failed and caused the plane to crash. in this case there is no point in doing that as the plane was functioning normally right up to the point where they crashed it into a ing building?
They didnt go through all that work to trace the serial numbers because they are not mandated to prove beyond every irrational tin foil hat conspiracy thought that it was indeed flight 77 that hit the pentagon.
