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Do you believe there is a U.S. government cover-up surrounding 9/11? (pg. 307)
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| culorut |
Are Bush and Cheney guilty of Treason?
US Constitution Article 3 Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
On Sept 20th, 2001, George W. Bush announced a "war on terror". "Our war on terror begins with al Qaeda, but it does not end there. It will not end until every terrorist group of global reach has been found, stopped and defeated." http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/rele...20010920-8.html
If we are engaged in a war on terrorist groups, then anyone who gives aid and comfort to terrorist groups is an enemy.
One major aim of terrorist groups is to get hold of weapons of mass destruction, in order to better terrorize a target population, such as the people of the US.
At the time Bush gave his speech, Valerie Plame was an undercover CIA agent, running an international ring of CIA assets, whose job was tracking WMD's through world black markets and preventing them from falling into the hands of terrorists. Two years later, her undercover identity was leaked to the press. Her outing did serious and lasting damage.
Several intelligence officials described the damage in terms of how long it would take for the agency to recover. According to their own assessment, the CIA would be impaired for up to "ten years" in its capacity to adequately monitor nuclear proliferation on the level of efficiency and accuracy it had prior to the White House leak of Plame Wilson's identity. http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Outed...ng_on_0213.html
In other words, the outing of Valerie Plame made it much easier for "every terrorist group of global reach" to acquire WMD's.
Thus, the outing of Valerie Plame gave aid and comfort to terrorist groups.
In other words, whoever "leaked" her undercover CIA identity to the press gave aid and comfort to terrorist groups, by making it easier for them to acquire WMD's.
OUTING VALERIE PLAME WAS AN ACT OF TREASON
"Scooter" Libby took the fall for the administration on the Plame outing, after being convicted of perjury and obstruction of justice by Patrick Fitzgerald's grand jury. Bush suspended his sentence, so he did no jail time.
Now Scott McClelland, who was presidential spokesman at the time, tells us that both Bush and Cheney were directly involved into misleading him, Scott McClelland, into telling the press that no one in the White House did the outing of Plame.
In other words, Bush and Cheney are co-conspirators in the outing of Plame, or at least in the coverup and obstruction of justice. They have both committed treason.
If Congress does not impeach them immediately, then the whole Congress is guilty of treason.
When the 2008 election comes around, We the People should turn out of office any Representative who has not cosponsored HR 333/799- to impeach Cheney.
We're forming a New Broom Coalition, for a clean sweep of Congress. If you, or someone you know, is running for Congress on an impeachment platform, please contact us through our website: http://sances.info/newbroom/
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| Krypton |
Valerie Plame is a completely different issue. I thought we were talking about your 911 conspiracy theory. Now you want to change the subject? You are accusing the government of orchestrating a treasonous terrorist act. Don't change the subject. |
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| culorut |
| quote: | | Because we've all said a lie at one point of our lives. |
Their lies lead to their own people being killed for no reason other than profit and control. I was not talking about the white lies everyone makes at some point in their lives. "Serious" enough to be tried as treason.
| quote: | | We just don't agree with 9/11 having been a conspiracy. |
Good I am all for it, debate the facts like the 9/11 commission post I just made about it being a scam then. It's pretty undeniable considering the vice chairman of the same board said it was also. |
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| yukii |
| quote: | Originally posted by culorut
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- I think the gravity of our lies can be more than 'little white lies'- everyone has given a big fat REAL lie.
- Because a lie is more 'serious' now you can accuse treason?
- Sending your innocent people to get killed for profit is not treason- it's just profit, sadly.
- I don't know where the 9/11 commission 'scam' takes part in the conspiracy theory. |
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| Krypton |
| quote: | Originally posted by yukii
- Sending your innocent people to get killed for profit is not treason- it's just profit, sadly.
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It's war profiteering is what is it is. I don't think he knows what treason really is...:rolleyes: |
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| yukii |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
It's war profiteering is what is it is. I don't think he knows what treason really is...:rolleyes: |
I'm going to post this now bc it has nothing to do with the argument :)
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| culorut |
| You two should try to type in treason+Cheney into Google and see what everyone is talking about. |
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| culorut |
| quote: | Originally posted by yukii
- I don't know where the 9/11 commission 'scam' takes part in the conspiracy theory. |
Then how can you refute it?
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| culorut |
Bush-Cheney are guilty of TREASON - Pelosi prevents impeachment
In law, treason is the crime that covers some of the more serious acts of disloyalty to one’s sovereign or nation. A person who commits treason is known as a traitor.
These crimes and the impeachment of officers thereof are granted by the U.S. Constitution.
ARTICLE II: Section 4
The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office of Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
ARTICLE III: Section 3
Treason against the United States, shall consist only 1) in levying War against them, or in 2) adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the person attained.
Ex parte Bollman, 8 U.S. 75 (1807), was a case brought before the United States Supreme Court, which ruled that:
“there must be an actual assembling of men, for the treasonable purpose, to constitute a levying of war”.
The Constitutional definition of treason is limited to actual, direct, and concrete involvement in an attempt to forcefully overthrow the government.
That is, treason is essentially a “military” offense. For instance, no amount of anti-government speech can qualify as treason, although giving away military secrets might.
The Supreme court could justifiably condemn them for conspiring with Enemies (of the Constitution). They have also used military force against the States and the People under the guise of their unconstitutional Military Commissions Act of 2006 and other high crimes.
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| Krypton |
| quote: | Originally posted by culorut
You two should try to type in treason+Cheney into Google and see what everyone is talking about. |
Is that what you tell the judge? Cheney is guilty of treason because when you google Cheney+treason, it has a lot of results. Seriously man... |
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| Krypton |
No where in that document could it be said Cheney is guilty of treason. War crimes, yes. Failing to protect the constitution. Perhaps. Treason, no. And still, we have no indictable evidence the government committed treason on 911. Still waiting... |
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| yukii |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
No where in that document could it be said Cheney is guilty of treason. War crimes, yes. Failing to protect the constitution. Perhaps. Treason, no. And still, we have no indictable evidence the government committed treason on 911. Still waiting... |
he speaks the truth. |
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