Originally posted by Krypton
None of that is evidence of a bomb. None.
You can keep telling yourself that all that you want because to those of us who choose to perceive instead of deceive (as you seem to be so fond of doing), it sure sounds like there's a lot more to the story than we've been told. ;)
Heck, even our President talked about intelligence relating to bombs being planted in the towers. It's just that you keep glossing over it in the effort to keep everyone misinformed.
"Khalid Sheikh Mohammed described the design of planned attacks of buildings inside the U.S. and how operatives were directed to carry them out. That is valuable information for those of us who have the responsibility to protect the American people. He told us the operatives had been instructed to ensure that the explosives went off at a high -- a point that was high enough to prevent people trapped above from escaping."
Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
Don't dodge my words! Hehe, the list was not meant to distract you, sorry. :wtf:
Today is day three of Krypton's dodging that one. lol
Krypton
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Originally posted by Trancer-X
You can keep telling yourself that all that you want because to those of us who choose to perceive instead of deceive (as you seem to be so fond of doing), it sure sounds like there's a lot more to the story than we've been told. ;)
Spare me your rhyming rhetoric bull. Show me the bomb fragments. The explosives material. All you have is people saying they though they heard a bomb. Many things sound like a bomb when they explode. It's not ing rocket science.
Krypton
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Originally posted by Trancer-X
Today is day three of Krypton's dodging that one. lol
Hehe, good one, are you always that funny? Ladies and gentlemen, we have a ing comedian!!:haha:
{b.s.e.}
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Originally posted by Krypton
Spare me your rhyming rhetoric bull. Show me the bomb fragments. The explosives material. All you have is people saying they though they heard a bomb. Many things sound like a bomb when they explode. It's not ing rocket science.
No, my ill-witted friend, we have described a scenario in which could only have occurred through a controlled demolition. Remember that whole free-fall thing that you haven't addressed?
Krypton
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Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
No, my ill-witted friend, we have described a scenario in which could only have occurred through a controlled demolition. Remember that whole free-fall thing that you haven't addressed?
Funny thing is, the towers fell TOP-DOWN. Controlled demolitions...DOWN-UP.
Trancer-X
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Originally posted by Krypton
Spare me your rhyming rhetoric bull. Show me the bomb fragments. The explosives material. All you have is people saying they though they heard a bomb. Many things sound like a bomb when they explode. It's not ing rocket science.
How many things that sound like bombs actually blow people across the LOBBY, UP stairwells and across the sub-basement of the WTC towers (which numerous people reported upon)?
They actually arrested men who had a van full of explosives on 9/11 so why exactly is it that you don't think that we should have an independent investigation looking into these things?
Graeme MacQueen, Founding Director of the Centre for Peace Studies (McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario) reads testimony from New York Fire Dept. firefighters:
Angel Rivera: "When we hit the 19th floor, something horrendous happened. It was like a bomb went off. We thought we were dead. The whole building shook."
NYFD Asst. Commissioner Stephen Gregory: I thought that I saw...low level flashes...I saw flash-flash-flash, and then it looked like the building came down. You know like when they blow up a building, when it falls down? That's what I thought I saw."
Firefighter Daniel Rivera: "At first I thought it was... Do you ever see professional demolition where they set the charges on certain floors and then you hear, 'pop-pop-pop-pop-pop'? That's exactly what, because I thought it was that, when I heard that frigging noise, that's when I saw the building coming down."
NYFD Captain Karin Deshore: "Somewhere around the middle of the World Trade Center there was this orange and red flash coming out. Initially it was just one flash. Then this flash kept popping, all the way around the building, and that building had started to explode."
{b.s.e.}
Well considering how ing perfect the whole thing went off, I'm sure taking into effect that collapsing it from the bottom first would be a huge mistake and surely spoil the next 7 years of pre-planned foreign policy.
Here you can see the tower start its ascent, breaking off from the stable lower half of the building. How does the rest follow suit, collapsing under what is clearly a favourable weight distribution to the remainder of the building. Yet the rest collapses in uniformity. Notice the flashes of light just prior to collapse, on both faces of the building.
Perhaps the street level view, with blatant thermite reaction coming from where the buiding wounded will alleviate any concerns on what brough the towers down. lol
Naturally, I don't believe this will be the case.
You haven't addressed my dissection of that awful propaganda tear-jerker you put up for my amusement either. ;)
Krypton
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Originally posted by Trancer-X
How many things that sound like bombs actually blow people across the LOBBY, UP stairwells and across the sub-basement of the WTC towers (which numerous people reported upon)?
They actually arrested men who had a van full of explosives on 9/11 so why exactly is it that you don't think that we should have an independent investigation looking into these things?
Once again, nothing but conjecture. A van with explosives in it. Oh gee. Must be the 9/11 bomb squad! You've just made a giant leap in that assumption. As for the "firefighter" testimony, once again, hearing explosions does not necessarily mean a bomb is going off. And once again, show us bomb fragments, who set the bombs, who ordered the bombs laid, what are the orders, what explosives material was found? You guys are just repeating yourselves, "there was was bomb there was a bomb there was bomb, believe us or you're a troll believe or you're a troll believe us or your a troll."...:rolleyes:
Trancer-X
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Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
Here you can see the tower start its ascent, breaking off from the stable lower half of the building. How does the rest follow suit, collapsing under what is clearly a favourable weight distribution to the remainder of the building. Yet the rest collapses in uniformity. Notice the flashes of light just prior to collapse, on both faces of the building.
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"My wife and I, transfixed in front of a TV as the horror of 9/11 unfolded, watched as the topmost, undamaged floors of the WTC South Tower started to gradually lean (rotate) in the direction of the damage due to impact. In an instant, the rotation stopped, and that which was rotating began to fall, as if only under the influence of gravity! The fulcrum was no longer there!
I blurted out, "My god, they wired the building."
I haven't been at peace with myself, or the world, since then. I had no idea who the "they" in my utterance was, and to this day still do not. Since learning more about the events leading up, and subsequent to the tragedy, I have become firmly convinced that the conspiracy being sold to the world by the Government, the media, and debunkers is the greatest Red Herring of our time, if not in history. Those of us who are seeking the "Truth about 9/11" face a formidable but not insurmountable challenge: to convince those who don’t want to know to join us in applying a continuing and increasing pressure on the media to force those who don’t want us to know into the light of day.
- Mike Hawryluk, MAT – Professor Emeritus of Physics and former Division Chairman, Suffolk County Community College, NY
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In that instant, the force opposing that of gravity, at the center of rotation appears to have gone to zero. This in itself should refute the 'pancake collapse' hypothesis. To be credible, the basic assumption of this hypothesis is the simultaneous application and even distribution of an equal force spread over each successive floor. The available visual evidence contradicts this hypothesis:
neither the sum of the vertical forces nor the sum of the torques is equal to zero, since there is clear evidence of both angular and translational acceleration, and
at the instant of an unexplained event (apparent explosion) the angular acceleration appears to go to zero, and the translational approaches that of 'free fall.'
The only physical explanation for this observable phenomena is the instantaneous removal of the force(s) opposing the motion of the falling, rotating upper structure, which is (are), the force(s) applied by the remaining structure beneath it, whether damaged, or undamaged.
That can only be accomplished by putting the damaged supporting structure into a "free fall" condition, i.e., controlled demolition. It should be obvious to everyone that the impact times and velocities of the falling upper block on the supporting floors would be a function of the horizontal distance from the instantaneous center of rotation which was at or near the western face of the tower.
- Mike Hawryluk, MAT – Professor Emeritus of Physics and former Division Chairman, Suffolk County Community College, NY
Trancer-X
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Originally posted by Krypton
Once again, nothing but conjecture. A van with explosives in it. Oh gee. Must be the 9/11 bomb squad! You've just made a giant leap in that assumption. As for the "firefighter" testimony, once again, hearing explosions does not necessarily mean a bomb is going off. And once again, show us bomb fragments, who set the bombs, who ordered the bombs laid, what are the orders, what explosives material was found? You guys are just repeating yourselves, "there was was bomb there was a bomb there was bomb, believe us or you're a troll believe or you're a troll believe us or your a troll."...:rolleyes:
Man, you really work hard to try and discredit the thousand pieces of evidence that are contrary to the "official" conspiracy. I'll give you that much but at the same time I can't even fathom how many lifetimes it's going to take for you to work all that nasty karma back out of your soul. lol
Krypton
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Originally posted by Trancer-X
Man, you really work hard to try and discredit the thousand pieces of evidence that are contrary to the "official" conspiracy. I'll give you that much but at the same time I can't even fathom how many lifetimes it's going to take for you to work all that nasty karma back out of your soul. lol
You have no direct evidence. You have no direct evidence. You have no direct evidence. You have no direct evidence. You have no direct evidence. You have no direct evidence. You have no direct evidence. You have no direct evidence. You have no direct evidence. You have no direct evidence. You have no direct evidence. You have no direct evidence. You have no direct evidence. You have no direct evidence.
Again, if your case is so strong, then you should be able to prosecute those responsible. 7 years after the fact, you guys are here in a forum screaming "believe us or you're a troll", and just wasting everyone's time. Talk is cheap. I want to see someone arrested and charged with 9/11. Oh forgot...Khalid Sheik Mohammed was already arrested. Oh, but our government did the attacks...hmmm...I guess Mohammed was set up huh?
