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Do you believe there is a U.S. government cover-up surrounding 9/11? (pg. 231)
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| {b.s.e.} |
"small, unanswered questions"
why did both the 9/11 attack and the London subway bombing occur while both countries in question were executing drills of the exact nature of which happened [the very day which drills were being carried out]?
agreed, needless curiousities. |
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| dcougar99 |
| quote: | Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
"small, unanswered questions"
why did both the 9/11 attack and the London subway bombing occur while both countries in question were executing drills of the exact nature of which happened [the very day which drills were being carried out]?
agreed, needless curiousities. |
That was just a coincidence! :haha:
Peter Power Flees From Confrontation On 7/7 Terror Drill
Former Scotland Yard official refuses to answer questions about who exercise was conducted for
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Thursday, December 13, 2007
The managing director of the company that eerily, and some charge suspiciously, were running drills identical to the events that unfolded on 7/7 in London had to flee from members of We Are Change UK this week when he was asked to explain who had hired his consultancy firm to run the exercise that coincided with the bombing.
Peter Power, head of Visor Consultants, was a former Scotland Yard official, working at one time with the Anti-Terrorist Branch.
On the afternoon of July 7th, 2005, Power told a BBC radio interviewer that his company was running an exercise for an unnamed group that revolved around three bombs going off at precisely the same tube stations and precisely the same time as those that were hit that morning.
The odds of such a coincidence are absolutely staggering, which led some to charge that Power's drill was set up ahead of time by people with insider foreknowledge of 7/7.
Just as happened on 9/11, when exercises involving hijacked aircraft overlapped with the real attacks, some charge that the drill was a cover for the real attack in case any of its perpetrators were caught.
Power's culpability is seemingly minimal - after all why would he announce the drill on national radio hours after the attack - but his reaction to the questions asked in this video prove that he is very uncomfortable about discussing the subject now.
Power becomes agitated as soon as he realizes he is being filmed and jabs his finger at the camera as he begins to walk away.
Power is then asked about the mock terror drills he was running on 7/7 that coincided with the bombings and which company he was running the simulation for.
Power's only response is to storm off before ducking into a room and closing the door. |
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| dcougar99 |
CIA Sponsored Exercise on the Morning of 9/11
On the morning of September 11 2001, within minutes of the attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, the CIA had been running "a pre-planned simulation to explore the emergency response issues that would be created if a plane were to strike a building". The simulation was held at the CIA Chantilly Virginia Reconnaissance Office.
The Bush administration described the event as "a bizarre coincidence". The matter was not mentioned by the media.(AP, 22 August 2002)
The CIA sponsored simulation consisted in a "scheduled exercise" held on the morning of September 11, 2001, where "a small corporate jet crashed into one of the four towers at the agency's headquarters building after experiencing a mechanical failure. (Quoted in Associated Press, 22 August 2002.)
The news concerning the 9/11 Chantilly aircraft crashing simulation was hushed up. It was not made public at the time. It was revealed almost a year later, in the form of an innocuous announcement of a Homeland Security Conference. The latter entitled "Homeland Security: America's Leadership Challenge" was held in Chicago on September 6, 2002, barely a few days before the commemoration of the tragic events of 9/11.
The promotional literature for the conference under the auspices of the National Law Enforcement and Security Institute (NLESI) stated what nobody in America knew about. On the morning of 9/11, the CIA was conducting a pre-planned simulation of a plane striking a building. One of the key speakers at the National Law Enforcement and Security Institute conference was CIA's John Fulton, Chief of the Strategic War Gaming Division of the National Reconnaissance Office a specialist in risk and threat response analysis, scenario gaming, and strategic planning.
(See . The National Law Enforcement and Security Institute website is: http://www.nlsi.net/ See also The Memory Hole at http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/cia-simulation.htm):
On the morning of September 11th 2001, Mr. Fulton and his team at the CIA were running a pre-planned simulation to explore the emergency response issues that would be created if a plane were to strike a building. Little did they know that the scenario would come true in a dramatic way that day. Information is the most powerful tool available in the homeland security effort. At the core of every initiative currently underway to protect our country and its citizens is the challenge of getting the right information to the right people at the right time. How can so much information from around the world be captured and processed in meaningful and timely ways? Mr. Fulton shares his insights into the intelligence community, and shares a vision of how today's information systems will be developed into even better counter-terrorism tools of tomorrow. (Ibid)
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
10 characteristics of conspiracy theorists
A useful guide by Donna Ferentes
2. Relentlessness. They will always go on and on about a conspiracy no matter how little evidence they have to go on or how much of what they have is simply discredited. (Moreover, as per 1. above, even if you listen to them ninety-eight times, the ninety-ninth time, when you say "no thanks", you'll be called a "sheep" again.) Additionally, they have no capacity for precis whatsoever. They go on and on at enormous length. |
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| {b.s.e.} |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
10 characteristics of conspiracy theorists
A useful guide by Donna Ferentes
2. Relentlessness. They will always go on and on about a conspiracy no matter how little evidence they have to go on or how much of what they have is simply discredited. (Moreover, as per 1. above, even if you listen to them ninety-eight times, the ninety-ninth time, when you say "no thanks", you'll be called a "sheep" again.) Additionally, they have no capacity for precis whatsoever. They go on and on at enormous length. |
so this is you giving up, right? conceding? you have no fight left in you, and it's only stubborn pride and a pussnuts ego that will not allow you to agree?
get over yourself.
This guide is getting useless. much like debating the extra chromosome with a down's syndrome child. |
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| XaNaX |
| no, but arguing with you truthers is about as productive as talking to a wall. there really is no point because as long as there is a unqualified halfwit crazy with no credentials out there making a claim about 9/11 you truthers will believe what they say even when that flies in the face of all factual accounts and evidence. please do us all a favor and refrain from posting until you have some actual hard evidence to back up your claims. |
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| {b.s.e.} |
| quote: | Originally posted by XaNaX
no, but arguing with you truthers is about as productive as talking to a wall. there really is no point because as long as there is a unqualified halfwit crazy with no credentials out there making a claim about 9/11 you truthers will believe what they say even when that flies in the face of all factual accounts and evidence. please do us all a favor and refrain from posting until you have some actual hard evidence to back up your claims. |
Huh? Are you hear to say nothing at all as well?
http://www.911truth.org/downloads/9...rup_booklet.pdf
It's 24 pages, it requires some reading - but don't be scared! There are some pictures.
Do you read what you're about to post? I can almost hear you breathing through your mouth, scrunching your eyebrows together trying to spell credentials.
The whole Commission was a scam in itself. Did you even know that Bush tried to appoint Kissinger as Chairman? One of the greatest liars of all time?
Think about it. Though readily doubt you'll read the pdf. |
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| XaNaX |
| quote: | Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
Think about it. Though readily doubt you'll read the pdf. |
you are right. I've already read page after page of pointless drivel from links you have posted. Every one of them was easily debunked as lies, misquotes, and fabrications (remember the pentacon? lol). I'm sick of dumbing myself down to read that crap that those morons running those web sites post. When you post a link to a legitimate non-truther source with some evidence to support your claims then I'll read it. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
so this is you giving up, right? |
correct. the fact that you're a truther tells the rest of us that you are immune to logic and have serious flaws in your critical thinking skills.
the same way i wouldn't waste my time arguing evolution with a creationist, i am no longer willing to engage you morons when its painfully obvious you're a lost cause. its not my job to pull you out of your delusions.
your recent deluge of nonsense regarding "astro theology" showed me everything i needed to know about your ability to conduct research and apply deductive reasoning, and your inherent problems with confirmation biases. you're one of these children that for some reason find yourself drawn to the "alternative" viewpoints bereft of evidence, logic and expert support. why would i waste my time with you? what would the point be? you'll just go from fantastic topic to fantastic topic because you enjoy feeling like youre "in the know".
to be honest, i just enjoy pointing out the parallels between your logic and my guide :)
i see no point in repeating information that you all ignore anyway. if you guys wanna waste your life with conspiracies and immature cloak and dagger discourse, knock yourselves out. one day (perhaps) you'll grow up.
| quote: | Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
The whole Commission was a scam in itself. |
10 characteristics of conspiracy theorists
A useful guide by Donna Ferentes
6. Inability to tell good evidence from bad. Conspiracy theorists have no place for peer-review, for scientific knowledge, for the respectability of sources. The fact that a claim has been made by anybody, anywhere, is enough for them to reproduce it and demand that the questions it raises be answered, as if intellectual enquiry were a matter of responding to every rumour. While they do this, of course, they will claim to have "open minds" and abuse the sceptics for apparently lacking same.
8. Leaping to conclusions. Conspiracy theorists are very keen indeed to declare the "official" account totally discredited without having remotely enough cause so to do. Of course this enables them to wheel on the Conan Doyle quote as in 4. above. Small inconsistencies in the account of an event, small unanswered questions, small problems in timing of differences in procedure from previous events of the same kind are all more than adequate to declare the "official" account clearly and definitively discredited. It goes without saying that it is not necessary to prove that these inconsistencies are either relevant, or that they even definitely exist.
thanks for being consistent! :stongue: |
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| culorut |
LOL, more bull from hard headed fuks who cannot accept the facts about 9/11. (and 7/7)
I mean Christ how many times can the same exact drills occur on the exact day that the actual events happened?
Talk about ignorance. |
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| culorut |
The families of 9/11 victims sure seem to agree with the truth movement.
9/11 Press for Truth
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by culorut
LOL, more bull from hard headed fuks who cannot accept the facts about 9/11. (and 7/7)
I mean Christ how many times can the same exact drills occur on the exact day that the actual events happened?
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10 characteristics of conspiracy theorists
A useful guide by Donna Ferentes
8. Leaping to conclusions. Conspiracy theorists are very keen indeed to declare the "official" account totally discredited without having remotely enough cause so to do. Of course this enables them to wheel on the Conan Doyle quote as in 4. above. Small inconsistencies in the account of an event, small unanswered questions, small problems in timing of differences in procedure from previous events of the same kind are all more than adequate to declare the "official" account clearly and definitively discredited. It goes without saying that it is not necessary to prove that these inconsistencies are either relevant, or that they even definitely exist.
10. It's always a conspiracy. And it is, isn't it? No sooner has the body been discovered, the bomb gone off, than the same people are producing the same old stuff, demanding that there are questions which need to be answered, at the same unbearable length. Because the most important thing about these people is that they are people entirely lacking in discrimination. They cannot tell a good theory from a bad one, they cannot tell good evidence from bad evidence and they cannot tell a good source from a bad one. And for that reason, they always come up with the same answer when they ask the same question. |
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