Originally posted by culorut
who are not informed making invalid assumptions. If I cared what anyone thought I would have stopped a long time ago.
Yea, uh huh, then you wouldn't have said this...
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Originally posted by culorut
No it's what an overwhelming amount of people around the world believe they should be tried for.
Just another battle in where you are in the minority and cannot think outside the box for a moment.
To which would equate to...
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Originally posted by Krypton
Argumentum Ad Populum
An argumentum ad populum (Latin: "appeal to the people"), in logic, is a fallacious argument that concludes a proposition to be true because many or all people believe it; it alleges that "If many believe so, it is so."
So in actuality, you do care what other people think, and use your perception of public opinion to fallaciously argue an invalid point. It is you who is "not informed making invalid assumptions." Way to go champ...:rolleyes:
pkcRAISTLIN
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Total Members: 1,115
yep, taking the world by storm the truth movement is! :stongue:
Lebezniatnikov
World Population 6,776,729,820
12:09 GMT (EST+5) Apr 30, 2009
1115/6776729820 = .0000001645
or .00001645% of the world population.
That certainly sounds like a mass movement to me. We're definitely in the minority on the "government didn't commit 9/11" spectrum. I think we should just take it for granted that culorut has evidence of that too.
culorut
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
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Total Members: 1,115
yep, taking the world by storm the truth movement is! :stongue:
Do you believe there is a U.S. government cover-up surrounding 9/11? (culorut vs PKC)
Yes 210 59.15%
No 145 40.85%
culorut
Sorry you guys are a little late to post fraudulent numbers in this thread. As of 2006 these were the results from Zogby and this was just in America alone, outside of the USA even more people do not believe the bull official story.
Less than half of Americans satisfied with 9/11 investigations
According to a new Zogby poll, less than half of Americans are convinced that that the events of September 11 have been thoroughly investigated, RAW STORY has learned.
In the telephone survey of 1200 individuals, just 47% agreed that "the 9/11 attacks were thoroughly investigated and that any speculation about US government involvement is nonsense." Almost as many, 45%, indicated they were more likely to agree "that so many unanswered questions about 9/11 remain that Congress or an International Tribunal should re-investigate the attacks, including whether any US government officials consciously allowed or helped facilitate their success."
The poll is the first survey that has attempted to gauge the level of Americans' doubts about 9/11 and was carried out for the "9/11: Revealing the Truth, Reclaiming Our Future" conference to be held in Chicago in June.
Not surprisingly, Republicans as a group were the most supportive of existing investigations, with 70% expressing their satisfaction -- about the same percentage that has expressed approval of Bush's performance in recent polls. Sixty-four percent of those earning over $75,000 were also skeptical of doubts about 9/11. The groups most likely to want the attacks re-investigated were Hispanics at 67% and African-Americans at 64%.
Other groups also skewed one way or another, but with the majority position generally not above 58%. Overall, the breakdown on the question closely followed the usual political divisions in the country: Republicans vs. Democrats and independents, whites vs. minorities, the wealthier and better-educated vs. the poorer and less educated, people over fifty vs. those under fifty, men vs. women.
This rough balance in opinions is itself a striking finding. It suggests that doubts about the officials accounts of 9/11, far from representing an extreme fringe position, have become a standard component of anti-establishment attitudes.
When asked specificially if they thought there had been a government coverup of evidence that contradicts the official story, the results were again not far from an even split, with 48% rejecting the idea of a deliberate coverup and 42% supporting it. Belief in a coverup was the majority position among Democrats, 18-29 year olds, and a few other groups.
In an attempt to focus more specifically on the attitudes of those who were best informed about the events of 9/11, the poll asked its responders if they were aware of WTC Building 7, whose collapse on September 11 for no obvious reason was not investigated by the 9/11 Commission. Only 52% answered that they were aware of the collapse of Building 7, but out of that subgroup, 73% believed it should have been investigated.
On a related topic, those polled were asked if they felt the Bush Administration had exploited the September 11th attacks to justify the invasion of Iraq or if Bush had been right to go into Iraq because Saddam Hussein supported terrorism. Here the country was divided exactly, 44% to 44%, with the answers following party lines more closely than those to the 9/11 questions. Among Republicans, 72% felt the invasion was appropriate, while among Democrats 69% felt it was not.
A final question asked about the media's performance regarding 9/11, including coverage of victims' families, unanswered questions, theories that challenged the official account, and how the attacks were investigated. A majority of 55% rated the media as only fair or poor, while only 33% rated it as good.
Surprisingly, the groups most likely to rate the media positively tended to be those that were also most skeptical about official accounts of 9/11, including African-Americans, progressives, and those with lower incomes. The media were rated poorly by roughly 60% of Republicans, conservatives, and the more affluent and better educated. Libertarians and extreme conservatives, at 74% and 67% respectively, were the most negative of all.
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
World Population 6,776,729,820
12:09 GMT (EST+5) Apr 30, 2009
1115/6776729820 = .0000001645
or .00001645% of the world population.
That certainly sounds like a mass movement to me. We're definitely in the minority on the "government didn't commit 9/11" spectrum. I think we should just take it for granted that culorut has evidence of that too.
Now I know why you still have to be in school. Higher educated?
:rolleyes:
culorut
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Originally posted by yukii
I'm also pointing out the obvious.. I'm not trying to ridicule you sorry if you get that impression, but I just don't see how you can believe in these kind of absurdities.. and now I'm 'new, not well informed, making invalid assumptions'?
I am pointing out the obvious, have you bothered to look at the video which aired on C-span of what your own people think of the bull 9/11 commission report yet? Guess not, keep making assumptions.
Halcyon+On+On
Fight the good fight, culorut. I'm certain you're breaking them. The truth army shall march on the white house and hold all of those responsible for this disgusting debacle. Freedom shall reign once more, et cetera.
culorut
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Originally posted by Krypton
Yea, uh huh, then you wouldn't have said this...
To which would equate to...
So in actuality, you do care what other people think, and use your perception of public opinion to fallaciously argue an invalid point. It is you who is "not informed making invalid assumptions." Way to go champ...:rolleyes:
You still have not answered why you think there should be another 9/11 commission. Stop being a coward and answer the question, it is so blatantly obvious it was setup from both sides and Cheney/Bush getting the last laugh again.
culorut
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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Fight the good fight, culorut. I'm certain you're breaking them. The truth army shall march on the white house and hold all of those responsible for this disgusting debacle. Freedom shall reign once more, et cetera.
And I will light up a big fat cigar up if that day ever comes. For now I will stick to my guns keeping the sheeple and trolls entertained for things they will never understand.
Halcyon+On+On
Hey, culorut. You have access to so much truth... but what do you plan to do with it all though?
culorut
I have a feeling somebody lit up a big fat cigar already.
