Originally posted by colonelcrisp
I think the minnesota bridge collapse can hopefully shed some common sense on to some of you as to the nature of strucutral failure. While the NTSB hasnt begun their forensic analysis yet, my first hunch is that the structure lost stability due to the deck rehabilitation on the outer lanes of the freeway. Anyway, point being, that structure fell at "near freefall speeds" (i thought i should quote some of your rhetoric) and without any warning. Just goes to show you that because you have never seen it on tv before doesnt mean it cant happen.
And dont forget, the bridge was made of many floors and the cement was pulverized to dust when the bridge collapsed.
Magnetonium
Secondly, its not a Minnesota bridge, but in Mississippi. Third of all, there was construction work going on that bridge just before it collapsed ...
The bridge was undergoing "minor" repairs at the time of the tragedy, officials said. Early reports suggested construction workers were using a jackhammer before the collapse.
Plus how can you compare a collapse of a bridge to a collapse of a building like the WTC complex? Not a good comparison, lacks logic, irrelevant, quite silly ...
Look, the cement is pulverized ... OMG:
jonSun
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Originally posted by Magnetonium
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Secondly, its not a Minnesota bridge, but in Mississippi.
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Actually it was a bridge in Minnesota that ran across the Mississippi River.
Omega_M
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Originally posted by Magnetonium
Secondly, its not a Minnesota bridge, but in Mississippi.
you got a few things mixed up there, m8 :stongue:
colonelcrisp
1: It was in minnesota
2: The bridge was undergoing deck rehabilitation..... not structural rehabilitiation meaning the jack hammer the concrete out of small sectoins of the deck to repair corroded rebar and replace the surface treatment (asphalt). a jackhammer will do nothing to structural steel. infact a hoeram wont do much to structural steel.
3: the bridge only fell 60 ft and as you can see from your own photo, a section of the deck was pulverized.
4: The point i was trying to make was not that this bridge collapse is at all similar to the WTC, but that small changes in a structure can cause catastrophic results.
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Originally posted by Magnetonium
Secondly, its not a Minnesota bridge, but in Mississippi. Third of all, there was construction work going on that bridge just before it collapsed ...
The bridge was undergoing "minor" repairs at the time of the tragedy, officials said. Early reports suggested construction workers were using a jackhammer before the collapse.
Plus how can you compare a collapse of a bridge to a collapse of a building like the WTC complex? Not a good comparison, lacks logic, irrelevant, quite silly ...
Look, the cement is pulverized ... OMG:
Omega_M
there is a video if you guys haven't seen it already.
A much better video of the damage
shaolin_Z
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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Have you guys seen this movie called ZEITGEIST? I watched it a few days ago,lots of interesting points,but most of them have been told by many others in the past.I liked the part 3 of the movie myself the most.
Anyways here is the link:
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Thanks for the link, I just finished watching part one that covers astrotheology, but I'm already quite familiar with astrotheology and astrothelogical elements paralleled in religion; Christianity comes to mind at once of course. Although I'm kind of confused about the transition from the age of pices to the age of aquarius and how all that fits in with the Mayan calander. Time to hit those astology books lol. Meanwhile, I'm going to finish watshing the rest of Zietgeist and laugh my ass off at all the idiots in this thread lol.
DJ Shibby
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
i keep asking this question: can you provide me with evidence that the government does actually possess any footage of the plane hitting? people seem to make this assumption, but i am yet to see anything approaching fact that they do.
in any case, instead of arguing from a position of doubt, the CTers have much much bigger problems! like what happened to the plane, passengers, where the debris came from etc. id start there before making questionable assumptions about video footage ;)
Yesssssssssss...
The government should be given the benefit of the doubt, because their technology and manpower is feeble, and they only care about the benefit of the American people. :nervous:
Magnetonium
LOL ... MIssissippi ... Minnesota ... . Too bad a state has to be named after a river. Anyhow, on the photos and on the video links, you can clearly see that most of the concrete is still intact, and not pulverized to dust, like WTC was. Secondly, if there was no construction done on the bridge, and hopefully the investigation can shed a light on that, the bridge probably would have not collapsed. Third, the collapse of a bridge has very little in common to the collapse of a large building, its like comparing apples to oranges again ...
Magnetonium
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Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Thanks for the link, I just finished watching part one that covers astrotheology, but I'm already quite familiar with astrotheology and astrothelogical elements paralleled in religion; Christianity comes to mind at once of course. Although I'm kind of confused about the transition from the age of pices to the age of aquarius and how all that fits in with the Mayan calander. Time to hit those astology books lol. Meanwhile, I'm going to finish watshing the rest of Zietgeist and laugh my ass off at all the idiots in this thread lol.
I saw the movie Zeitgeist couple times already some time ago though a friend who bought it, but it's boring up until the last third of it (nothing new). The religion and the conspiracies parts have been alrready covered in detail in many other videos/movies I've seen. However, the last third of the movie, where everything was brilliantly put together, where the media and television was bashed, wow, that was good. Plus great selection of clips as well. Carl Sagan's one was good timing.
shaolin_Z
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Originally posted by Magnetonium
I saw the movie Zeitgeist couple times already some time ago though a friend who bought it, but it's boring up until the last third of it (nothing new). The religion and the conspiracies parts have been alrready covered in detail in many other videos/movies I've seen. However, the last third of the movie, where everything was brilliantly put together, where the media and television was bashed, wow, that was good. Plus great selection of clips as well. Carl Sagan's one was good timing.
Yeah, there wasn't new really in it at all that I'm not already familiar with, but it's pretty well put together.
pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by Magnetonium
Plus how can you compare a collapse of a bridge to a collapse of a building like the WTC complex? Not a good comparison, lacks logic, irrelevant, quite silly ...
ha- says the guy whose CT buddies compare the WTCs to the empire state or other irrelevant buildings!
