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Do you believe there is a U.S. government cover-up surrounding 9/11? (pg. 217)
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XaNaX
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Originally posted by Shakka
I don't think it's so much political views as it is a complete inability to think rationally and logically.


Exactly. He is in complete denial of reality and comes in here like a parrot for the truther web sites, using them as "evidence" to prove a point without ever doing one bit of research to see if the crap he is posting is even remotely based in reality. If I had a dollar for every piece of "evidence" he has posted that I was able to refute with 30 seconds of research I could quit my job. He has no respect at all for the truth and doesn't give two s about credentials or the use of scientific method. He will dismiss a peer reviewed scientific study of the WTC collapse done by engineers with credentials because some high school dropout wackjob with a website says it was controlled demolition.

Not one time will he answer a direct question, I mean hell, I've been trying for weeks to get him to tell me what he thinks happened at the Pentagon since he doesn't believe that Flight 77 hit it. Has he even offered one legitimate alternate explanation? Nope, all we ever get is "nobody has matched the serial numbers" or "there isn't a high definition video showing the plane hitting the Pentagon so it never happened" and other bull like that. Can he account for where Flight 77 and its passengers and crew are? Not a chance. And does he ever post any legitimate evidence to back up his claims? Yeah right. And when you post real evidence that proves that what he said was lies, half truths, misquotes, and fabrications he just ignores that and moves on to his next tirade.

I'm going to call a spade a spade and if you come in here and repeatedly deny that the official account of 9/11 is true but yet you can't even provide a viable alternate scenario much less one supported by legitimate evidence when repeatedly asked then you are a tinfoil hat wearing truther tard jackass and I'm going to call you that.

He is nothing but a troll in this thread until he starts spending the time to do his own research instead of copying things verbatum off of some truther website. He is not debating and he has absolutely no understanding of argumentation theory. When you make a claim the burden of proof is on you and not once has he ever presented legitimate evidence to prove his claims. "I said it happened so you must prove to me it didn't" is not even close to a legitimate way to debate an issue and when he does make an argument they are always chock full of logical fallacies. Just like his beloved truther websites, since he has absolutely no evidence to support his positions he attempts to "prove" his points with argumentum verbosium and argumentum ad nauseam. His "evidence" is full of special pleading, cherry picking, out of context quoting, false attribution, and straw man arguments.

I have no problem at all with his political views, what I have a problem with is how he (and you too b.s.e) refuses to provide researched credible evidence to back up his claims and how he will never answer a direct question when he is supposedly "debating" an issue.
LazFX
and anyone that takes up for him should be chastised as well....

we should gather all of these troofers up and cut their balls off to stop them from breeding....

they offer NO PROOF, but yet have the balls to spit in peoples faces, people that have lost loved ones in these acts of terror.....

ing half wits every single one of them...

go quote some more alex jones and shut the up
shaolin_Z
quote:
Originally posted by LazFX
and anyone that takes up for him should be chastised as well....

we should gather all of these troofers up and cut their balls off to stop them from breeding....

they offer NO PROOF, but yet have the balls to spit in peoples faces, people that have lost loved ones in these acts of terror.....

ing half wits every single one of them...

go quote some more alex jones and shut the up

Lay off the PCP Laz, it's not good for you ;).
Zild
I think we should cut the balls of of all government employees but hey that's just my opinion. But then again they've already had their balls cut off so it would be a major waste of time.
LazFX
I had my balls cut off long ago.......
its called divorce ;)
culorut
quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
I don't think it's so much political views as it is a complete inability to think rationally and logically.


You mean the official fairy tale believers....
culorut
quote:
we should gather all of these troofers up and cut their balls off to stop them from breeding....


I would say the same for the official story believers but you guys do not have any balls to begin with. To afraid to demand answers from the thousands of questions that are still left from 9/11.

Watch out for your shadows!

LOL
culorut
Barbara Olsen Did Not Call Ted Olsen. Bush Solicitor General LIED !!


Nationally syndicated talk show host Charles Goyette uncovered blockbuster information in his drive-time interview with author David Ray Griffin.

A center piece of the increasingly apparent BULLSH*T story our government and corporate media have fed us for six long years was a complete fabrication!

We were fed a lie by Ted Olsen who served as Solictor General for the Bush Administration, when on 9/11 he held a press conference to tell America and the world that his dead wife had called him before her demise from the jet she was on that had just been hijacked.

Personally, I thought it was odd at the time that a man would decide to hold a press conference minutes after hearing of his own wife’s death, when it happened on 9/11. If my own wife had just died, the last thing I’d want to do would be to talk to anyone, let alone call a press conference. It didn’t “smell” right.

Now we know why it didn’t smell right. It was a lie. The FBI has reported that no such call between Barbara Olsen and Ted Olsen ever took place on 9/11/2001.

It was part of the rapidly unraveling scam that is the official story of 9/11.

In fact, Griffin went on to explain that there is zero evidence that any hijackers had commandeered a plane at all. True Bush believers will say, whao, wait a minute, we all know they did. How do you know? Because Bush told you.

But, as Griffin rightly points out, in this interview, there is no “EVIDENCE” of their existence.

Which also reveals that mis-information shill, Popular Mechanics, in their 9/11 interview on the Charles Goyette Show months ago, lied when they told us there was DNA evidence of the so-called Muslim hijackers. LIES, all lies.

When will corporate media stop their participation in a criminal cover up? If the former Solicitor General lying to America by creating a complete fabrication he spread around the world through corporate media, is not a story worthy of CNN, FOX, ABC, NBC, CBS, Democracy Now, The Nation, Rolling Stone, PBS, NPR, and all the other fourth estate . . . then they have no right to refer to themselves as media.

They should forever in the future refer to themselves as “The Propaganda Ministry.”

So, how can we break through the hijacking of our media in America? How can we get the mass culture to be exposed to hard questions around 9/11?

We must use guerilla tactics, and take opportunities when they come.

On January 22nd, 2008, a New York Times best selling novelist, put his career on the line to write an explosive new edu-tainment book called “The Shell Game.”

Since that has happened he’s been attacked, his personal emails have been publicized, his home address, a google map to his home, his phone number and other personal information has been posted on the interne


Media that had interviewed him on all his other books have shunned him. The big publishing houses that would have published his normal thrillers closed their doors to “The Shell Game,” and major book publicizing events he’d been invited to in the past, have mysteriously cancelled his speaking engagements.


In spite of that in the 2nd week of “The Shell Game”s release, it rose to #31 on the New York Times best seller list. A growing army of Americans hungry to create a mass demand for a new 9/11 investigation have come to support the success of “The Shell Game.”

Why? Within the pages of “The Shell Game” real 9/11 research is exposed. The Shell Game’s website www.TheShellGame.net has links to most major 9/11 truth websites.

Author, Steve Alten, has hitched his explosive novel to be coupled with David Ray Griffin’s upcoming non-fiction book, in order to give it more exposure faster.

Anyone who wants to create a mass demand for 9/11 truth and a new investigation, should do everything in their power to promote “The Shell Game,” in every way they can think of doing. At www.TheShellGame.net they’ll find to powerful 90 second video trailers that warn the public of false flag terror strikes by an American President to fool us into war with Iran.

Last week, both Bush and Chertoff warned we’d see a devastating attack on America soon. “The Shell Game” warns of just such an event. To get the most massive number of Americans reading such a book, will make it VERY difficult for Bush/Chertoff to realize their dream of another false flag attack on America.



http://www.opednews.com/articles/op...11_news_3a_.htm
jerZ07002
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Originally posted by culorut
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if you spend as much time receiving a proper university education as you do trying to find the truth to 9/11 i imagine one day you could move out of mom's house and quit mcdonalds.
shaolin_Z
quote:
Originally posted by LazFX
I had my balls cut off long ago.......
its called divorce ;)

As long as you were loyal, honest, and not negligant or didn't mistreat her... your balls are intact. The IRS is a different story though :p.

Zild
quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
As long as you were loyal, honest, and not negligant or didn't mistreat her... your balls are intact. The IRS is a different story though :p.


LOL WTF?
shaolin_Z
quote:
Originally posted by Zild
LOL WTF?

In that context that is :p.
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