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Do you believe there is a U.S. government cover-up surrounding 9/11? (pg. 244)
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{b.s.e.}
But I can't prosecute them, thus rendering my argument null. :/


:wtf:
{b.s.e.}
http://journalof911studies.com/volu...-Demolition.pdf

http://www.journalof911studies.com/...lapseWTC7_6.pdf

Flight path animation with data provided from Flight 77's Black Box. Juxtaposed with Official Story's bull path.

Krypton
I believe this is 9/11 truth...

{b.s.e.}
quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
I believe this is 9/11 truth...



You can best believe I am watching this. Report in an hour. :wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf:
Trancer-X
quote:
Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
You can best believe I am watching this. Report in an hour. :wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf:


The writers, Larry Klein and Garfield Kennedy, are apparently proponents of the (Laws of Physics defying) "pancake theory."

I liked this next one a lot better since it delves a lot deeper than the BS story that we've been spoon-fed by the mainstream media and the Bush administration. The film maker of this one interviews retired pilots, military brass, first hand eyewitnesses, etc., and actually asked REAL QUESTIONS.




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http://www.takebackwashington.com/re.html
{b.s.e.}
quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X
The writers, Larry Klein and Garfield Kennedy, are apparently proponents of the (Laws of Physics defying) "pancake theory."

http://www.takebackwashington.com/re.html


Yeah, which is exactly why I want to watch it :wtf:

Taking notes, too. lol, Thus far, it's a load.:gsmile:
Trancer-X
quote:
Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
Yeah, which is exactly why I want to watch it :wtf:

Taking notes, too. lol, Thus far, it's a load.:gsmile:


I saw it when it came out and although I thought at the time that the production quality was good, I also didn't think that it held any kind of revelatory information or anything that we haven't seen or heard a million times in the official theory.

9/11 Ripple Effect on the other hand actually delves into the facts and explains such things like how the faulty computer model that the ASCE used to recreate the Pentagon attack didn't even include the engines on Flight 77, etc.
Trancer-X
quote:
Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
Don't dodge my words! Hehe, the list was not meant to distract you, sorry. :wtf:


It's funny how he can post in a hundred other threads but still has yet to answer you. lol

And he wonders why I call him a troll!!
{b.s.e.}
christian cross cut out on steel - who are they trying to reach. lol

it's a pilgrimage? - off

filmed like a drama, plays on emotions rather than addressing issues

ASCE has been accused of scandal numerous times, including Katrina douchery
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5...2WUPqQD93UCLVO2


referring to the wind as what they were designed to withstand, downplaying strength.

"survivor" 'lurched back and forth' - he isn't saying anything, where did he witness this 'lurching'? What does that imply, where did he get this vista view of the whole dynamics of the building?


the trusses? do you realise the amazing odds that are generated to factor the fail of every truss every single time, without the loss of kinetic energy? it's impossible.

goes back into history about wtc 93, more labelling of islamic radicals

huge void across six floors. compare to pentagon :o

"building saturated by jet fuel" how much was initially exploded, how long would that burn

goes on to discount jet fuel as the real culprit, stating that its true role was to act as an incendiary, igniting the other combustables, aka office fires

johnathan barnett is a supporter of dr. greenig, proponent of the acid rain theory of wtc7. lol

plays on more emotions, talking about people jumping from the buildings, absolutely off-point

al smith, wastes time talking about dry wall, semantics, rubber? reinactment necessary? so much filler. this isn't a survivor story,lol

how do they know the spray on fireproofing was destroyed? that speaks on no terms about any of the floors below, which were unaffected by fire.

10 second sound bytes by 'professionals' little to no content

pushed office content into the north east corner? lol.. who went up there to check? rather unsubstantiated

remember that a lot of smoke means less fire. less oxygen is available for spreading the blaze.Fire moves as well, following the fuel.. and when the fire moves and steel cools, it strengthens.

again, referring to the victims, playing on emotions
the witness/survivor refers to the towers as 'going over' which is the only possibility in anyone's mind, considering the circumstances. it should have topped at the wound, if it did at all

heartbeat used as atmosphere. why are they trying to induce fear on a subconscious level?

if they [the buildings] were hit in different areasm how did they collapse the same? a corner of a building, much lower down is much different than the facial damage done higher up on the north tower.

"now I know it can happen".. more fear mongering on a suggestive level.. 00oo00 it might happen again.. by the same people. lol

They don't even mention Wtc7, naturally. which fell in the same manner. doesn't it occur to you that the three buildings fell the exact same manner, all at virtually free fall speed? yet they endured three distinctly differnt fires in different locations. there is no symmetry in nature. read that again: there is no symmetry in nature.

i'm sorry to reference youtube, but this easily debunks the pancake theory.



i've explained how free fall speed was attained, numerous times, but for the nth time ;) i'll remind you that even the slightest deviance in fall would be accumulated over the duration of the collapse. if a half of a second was added to each of the 110 floors, you'd find yourself with another 5.5 seconds tagged onto the collapse time. the towers collapsed in 10 seconds. 13 at the very most. NIST reports their collapse at 9 and 11 seconds, respectively.

So, in effect, sir, you support an explanation of faulty logic and lies. You are perpetuating the cover up.

Sorry for the point form, but man, that doc. was dumb.
Trancer-X
I wonder why we've never heard anything about this guy?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eroIbHpfgOo

quote:
KTBS - He claimed he met three of the Sept. 11 hijackers in Shreveport a year before the attacks. Now, that man, Shreveport dentist Dr. David Graham, is dead.

His family says he was poisoned more than two years ago. At the time, Graham was trying to publish a manuscript about meeting three middle easterners in Shreveport, men he feared were plotting to bomb Barksdale Air Force Base. Graham wrote that he warned the FBI. Then after Sept. 11, he saw their pictures among the hijackers.

Before Graham was poisoned, he was supposed to testify at a deportation hearing against a Pakistani man, Jamal Khan, who hosted the men Graham believed to be the hijackers. Graham's brother, Edwin Jones, told us Wednesday night the family believes someone slipped poison into his drink, plunging him into a deadly illness.




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KSLA - SHREVEPORT, LA
Who Killed Dr. David Graham? Complaint filed with DOJ

Who killed Shreveport dentist and 9/11 researcher David Graham? That's the question at the heart of a complaint filed with the Inspector General's office at the U.S. Justice Department. It comes a year after Graham's death that was never investigated.

Up until his death in September 2006, Dr. Graham insisted someone poisoned him two years earlier, likely with propylene glycol (anti-freeze) as he tried to publish a book. That book claimed he met two 9/11 hijackers a year before September 11th and feared the men intended to target Barksdale Air Force Base.

Shreveport attorney John Milkovich, a friend of Dr. Graham, explained, "he documented in his book that he had reported them to the FBI some ten months before 9/11 and of course that you know, the FBI, federal authorities never detained these individuals, and that he had received a threat." Graham told those close to him that threat came from a federal agent.

Milkovich is the man who gave the eulogy at Graham's funeral. He said that there's no question about whether or not someone poisoned Dr. Graham. The question has always been who did it. Milkovich continued, "I personally don't know who poisoned him but I think that it's very important that the truth come out."

9/11 researcher Sander Hicks is the one who just filed a complaint with the Inspector General's Office at the DOJ, asking for an investigation into Graham's death because, among other reasons, those close to him still live in fear. Hicks told us, "the family has been worried that there's going to be some kind of reprisal."

Fear ran so high, said Hicks, that the family did not ask for an autopsy, even after Dr. Graham's 27-months of paralysis and organ failures before his death at a Shreveport nursing home. Hicks added, "If Dr. Graham can be taken out so easily without an investigation from law enforcement you know, people are scared."

The Department of Justice told Hicks to expect a reply within the next 6-months. I spoke by phone with Special Agent in Charge Mike Kinder in the Shreveport FBI office. He told me, there is no evidence those terror suspects, Nawaf Al-Hazi and Fayez Banihammad, were ever in Shreveport and said Dr. Graham only mentioned them after 9/11. Kinder also said the FBI did not investigate Graham's death because there was no evidence of any connection between Graham's writings and his illness.


Story by Jeff Ferrell

http://www.ksla.com/global/story.asp?s=7229970

Trancer-X
Here's a good montage showing many people who witnessed explosions



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8XBxw7k8rk
Krypton
quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X
Here's a good montage showing many people who witnessed explosions



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8XBxw7k8rk


None of that is evidence of a bomb. None.
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