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Do you believe there is a U.S. government cover-up surrounding 9/11? (pg. 42)
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| occrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by ogvh5150
STFU and READ:
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Seekin' that Ol' 911 Truth
* insider trading - there were 'put options' placed on airline stocks (a sort of bet that the stock will go down) days before the attacks which made someone millions of dollars
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So do you do any kind of quality control on what you post? This "conspiracy" in particular I know to be fallacious since it's not a conspiracy but sound financial analysis once you know the actual details of the case. Sorry but those damned details keep getting in the way!
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the Securities and Exchange Commission, note that "some unusual trading did in fact occur, but each such trade proved to have an innocuous explanation." Moreover, "the trading had no connection with 9/11." So what happened? "A single U.S.-based institutional investor with no conceivable ties to al Qaeda purchased 95 percent of the UAL puts on September 6." This same institution, as part of a complex trading strategy, also purchased 115,000 shares of AMR on September 10. But what about the spike in AMR puts trading on September 10? It turns out that a "U.S.-based options trading newsletter, faxed to its subscribers on Sunday, September 9...recommended these trades." Readers jumped in headfirst come Monday morning, only to strike it tragically lucky the next day.
Recall, as well, the mood of the summer of 2001. By early September, the airline industry was in the doldrums after the dot.com meltdown hit business and vacation travel. On September 5, meanwhile, Reuters, the news service widely followed by Wall Streeters, quoted analysts as saying that "a further deterioration" in airline financials was probable. Translation: Bail out now, boys. Matters were not helped by AMR's announcement two days later that its third- and fourth-quarter losses would be larger even than already forecast. Immediately, airline analysts downgraded AMR, as did hotel specialists, and a wave of shorting hit the travel industry (people even took positions in Royal Caribbean Cruise lines and Cruise Lines Carnival Corps).
As a result, investors hurled themselves into the puts market, desperate to lock in profits or make a killing if AMR went bust. The panic was not restricted only to AMR: Speculators rightly predicted that UAL would also go from bad to worse, and took their bear positions accordingly. Thus, the short interest on UAL was up, as I've said, 40 percent over the previous month (and AMR's by 20 percent), but the average for the other major airlines was 11 percent during the same period. While UAL's and AMR's short interest was greater than the airline average — reflecting widespread pessimism as to their chances — keep in mind that the average short ratio of all stocks on the exchange reportedly rose by one percent: pretty much every airline was getting clipped that summer compared to the rest of the market. In other words, American and United were in deep trouble even before September 11, and the market reacted normally (well, perhaps a little overheatedly) to bad news and darkened forecasts.
As for the ESPD rumor, yes, the stock — in common with most Nasdaq tech listings, a highly volatile one in the first place (it's Beta today is a whopping 1.886) — had gone into a tailspin thanks to the short-sellers, but by Monday, September 10, it had bounced to $8.69 — or 74 cents above its September 7 closing price. If Osama was an eSpeed short-seller, he had his wallet pick-pocketed by the longs on that occasion. (Since then, ESPD's lagged behind the major indexes).
The mysterious London trades, it turns out, were the work of a small European airline that was following a tried-and-true hedging strategy against a downturn (wisely, it seems). And as for Munich Re, the stock had been dropping since the beginning of September, and a week before September 11, two brokerages cut their ratings on the firm owing to their concerns about deterioration in the capital markets.
It is hardly likely, in any case, that a cell of terrorists, having planned these attacks for some years, would risk detection by the Security and Exchange Commission just a few days before they pulled the trigger. Even granting that bin Laden himself might be somewhat more sophisticated financially than his Taliban protectors, it is most improbable that his accomplices and sympathizers around the world were au fait with the workings of the derivatives market. And for executing options orders of the magnitude of early September, one would require the services of a major institutional broker — you try inputting "Buy 4,500 AMR October Puts" on E*Trade without getting a quizzical call from the broker. That kind of access would have been far beyond the means of anyone who could possibly have known in advance of the attacks.
Conspiracies do exist in this world but the UAL and AMR affair was not one of them. Sometimes, the most complex events have deceptively simple causes.
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| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
^^ yeah, thats what i thought. your shares aint doing anything :stongue: :stongue: |
Yeah, thats what I thought you still are a virgen and living with your parents. I guess you aint doing anything outside of the internet world :stongue: :stongue: :stongue: |
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I recomend that everyone focus more on the other aspects of the conspiracy that the people here are more qualified to debate over. You really cant grasp the concepts behind the engineering studies done on the colapses without first being a trained engineer. thats why we take so many courses. im not liscenced yet but god willing by december i will have my ring.
when you are reading all these 911 conspiracy websites keep in mind that no two buildings are alike and you cant compare them unless you understand the structural differences between the two. all buildings are systems that function in different ways, and in that they will react to external forces in different ways.
having said that, i dont discredit other aspects of the conspiracy theories like political motivation, NORAD failures etc because i dont know much about it and frankly cant be bothered to do that much reading. It just gets a little tiring reading through posts where people read some conspiracy theorists interpretation of structure design and use it as evidence to support their claims. |
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| ogvh5150 |
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
blah blah blah "conspiracy" blah blah blah fallacious blah blah blah damned details blah blah blah |
I am not the author of that article which you have failed to read in it's entirety. |
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| occrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by ogvh5150
I am not the author of that article which you have failed to read in it's entirety. |
Oh I read the "article" you posted and it's quite clear that it didn't address ANY issue that I raised. It didn't even direct me towards a source that had any hope of addressing the questions that I raised. Are you actually committed towards an intelligent debate that results in some kind of mental stimulus or are you merely content in spamming talking points. Did you read your own article that you posted? I don't think so otherwise you might realise that your response makes no sense. But hey, you've become quite adept at a number of logical fallacies, principally ad hominems. I'm glad that's working out for you. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by ogvh5150
If you feel you have something to contribute then start by not replying.
If you continue to attack me rather than actual OBJECTIVE debate then you'd be on the level of troll. |
are you serious? :wtf: he has raised a very specific issue regarding a particular source that YOU provided, and youre completely ignoring his criticisms.
he has tried to engage you in an actual OBJECTIVE debate, but youre making it difficult when your replies are of the quality of
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I am not the author of that article which you have failed to read in it's entirety. |
which doesnt, for a second, engage his argument. i really used to respect your (admittedly 'out there') opinions on this topic, but you havent engaged a single criticism of information you have posted. how do you expect to convince us if you wont entertain our questions? |
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| but im not attacking you. im asking you to respond to his argument. |
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| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
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If you continue to attack me rather than have an actual OBJECTIVE debate then you'd be on the level of a troll. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| ^^ the last stand of someone thoroughly losing the argument :rolleyes: |
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well, im more than happy to be on a list with q5, firestarter, colonel crisp, psy t, lazfx. good to be aboard fellas.
i mean seriously, what a ing baby. colonel\'s posts have been nothing but legitimate, constructive arguments based on his own field of expertise- engineering. and he makes the list, why?
this entire thread has contained nothing but ogv\'s conspiracy cut n pastes, full of poor research, half truths and moronic assumptions. we (me, colonel, occ etc) start asking questions that are too difficult for ogv to answer and suddenly we\'re all \'trolls\'.
this was after id spent a good few hours watching vids/reading sites that ogv had PM\'d to me. so, who is the blind troll now? at least i had the researching commitment to look at both sides of the argument. ogv is deliberately ignoring anything that might contradict his precious nutcase sites.
again, the 9/11 conpiracy movement is full of similarly close-minded, poorly researching idiots that would fail any decent uni course on the subject, coz their analysis is as substandard as their objectivity.
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New url for previous post:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/seekin.php
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Seekin' that Ol' 911 Truth
James Patton
First two simple questions:
Q1: On September 11 2001, how many buildings collapsed in New York City?
A: Two? No, THREE. The Twin Towers were hit by aeroplanes, but WTC 7, a massive 47 storey steel-framed skyscraper also collapsed. It was NOT hit by a plane. The evidence is clear - this was a controlled demolition. http://wtc7.net/ http://911physics.co.nr/ (Click on WTC 7 link)
Q2: How long did it take the FBI to bring charges against Usama bin Laden in connection with 911? One hour, eight hours, a day, a week?
A: Usama bin Laden is NOT on the FBI most wanted list in connection with 911. Why not? According to FBI spokesman, Chief of Investigative Publicity Rex Tomb, “The FBI has no hard evidence connecting Usama Bin Laden to 9/11.” http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=4673 http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/fugitives/laden.htm (accessed 20 August 2006)
If you believe 911 was an inside job, YOU ARE NOT ALONE. Below are just a small selection amongst the millions of credible persons including engineers, scientists, intelligence analysts, actors, theologians, philosophers, authors, investigative journalists, lawyers, military personel, politicians, family members and eye-witnesses who believe the investigation into the events of September 11 2001 must urgently be reopened.
Seekin' that ol' 911 Truth August 2006
On July 29 and 30, and then again on August 1, something happened that increasing numbers of people believe is of great importance. On these dates C-SPAN rebroadcast a 911 panel discussion, held originally in late June, sponsored by an organization called the American Scholars’ Symposium to discuss what really happened on September 11, 2001. http://www.infowars.com/articles/se...ns_momentum.htm http://www.c-span.org/homepage.asp?...&ShowVidNum=10&
Rot_Cat_CD=APS&Rot_HT=206&Rot_WD=&ShowVidDays=100&ShowVidDesc=&ArchiveDays=100
Held in Los Angeles, the meeting lasted two days, and the C-SPAN rebroadcast covered one almost two-hour wrap-up session. The meeting was attended by 1,200 people interested in hearing something other than the official story of 9/11. The TV audience was evidently large enough to spur C-SPAN to broadcast the panel discussion five separate times in four days.
Even a month late, this is a lot of airtime for stories that many people call conspiracy theories!
The seekers after 911 truth have been around for almost 5 years now, and they're NOT GOING AWAY - they're growing day by day!
In April Charlie Sheen made national news (CNN Showbiz Tonight 7pm) three nights in a row, with coverage continuing every day the following week. http://www.911blogger.com/2006/03/f...ghts-sheen.html http://prisonplanet.com/articles/ju...nautoftruth.htm
What newsworthy event prompted such coverage? Mr. Sheen announced that he thinks the government has been covering up the truth about 9/11. Charlie thinks 9/11 was an inside job! http://9eleven.info/ http://www.911truth.org/article.php...060323162638376
Two of Sheen's fellow actors, Ed Asner and Ed Begley, Jr, agree with him. [[ LINK REMOVED ]]
And so does movie director Aaron Russo. [[ LINK REMOVED ]]
Maybe you don’t care what they think, they're just actors. Perhaps you want the opinion of scientists. Well, how about an expert like Steven E Jones, professor of physics at BYU? Professor Jones has found forensic evidence of thermate, an explosive, being used to cut through key support pillars in the WTC buildings. http://www.9eleven.info/911JonesPaperhtm7.htm http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/print.asp?ID=4688 http://www.question911.com/linkout....%20Evidence.wmv
Or perhaps MIT Engineer Jeff King who also believes the WTC were brought down by a controlled demolition. [[ LINK REMOVED ]]
News+WTC+911+Conspiracy+Flight+77&search_sort=relevance&search_category=0&page=2
What about a mathematician? Professor of mathematics, University of Western Ontario, and founder of the Scientific Panel Investigating Nine-Eleven (SPINE), A.K Dewdney. http://www.serendipity.li/wot/operation_pearl.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._K._Dewdney
Maybe they’re too theoretical for you. You want someone from the applied sciences. May I suggest Clemson mechanical engineering professor Judy Wood? http://www.911blogger.com/2006/03/m...essor-from.html http://janedoe0911.tripod.com/BilliardBalls.html
Or how about Kevin Ryan, former department head at UL (Underwriter Laboratories), the company which certified the steel which went into the WTCs upon their construction, and inspected it after the WTC collapses in 2001. He found the official reports to be full of lies and contradictions. http://www.911truth.org/article.php...041112144051451 http://www.snowshoefilms.com/
Maybe you don’t care for ’eggheads’. http://www.st911.org/ http://physics911.net/spine.htm http://911physics.co.nr/
You want to hear from true patriots, military men, like former head of Star Wars and air force colonel, Bob Bowman, who says the 'official story of 911 is a bunch of hogwash and impossible'. [[ LINK REMOVED ]]
Or USAF Col. (Ret) George Nelson, an authority on aircraft crash investigation. http://www.physics911.net/georgenelson.htm
Or former chief Pentagon arms negotiator for the Middle East, USAF Col. (Ret) Don de Grand-Pre http://www.prisonplanet.com/022904degrand.html
Or how about military men from other countries who are also skeptics of the 'official' story of 911? Here's a few:
Canadian National Defense Minister, the Honourable Paul Hellyer http://www.septembereleventh.org/kc...ies/Hellyer.mov
National Minister of Defense (Germany). Also, served as Minister of Technology Andreas Von Bulow. [[ LINK REMOVED ]]
Former Chief of Staff of the Russian armed forces, and chief of the department for General affairs in the Soviet Union 's ministry of Defense, General Leonid Ivashov http://www.globalresearch.ca/index....&articleId=1788
Maybe military types scare you. How about a lady of letters like poet Erica Jong? http://www.etruscanpress.org/02_september_11_2001.html
Maybe you’re not into poetry. Prose is more your style. How about Webster Tarpley author of 9/11 Synthetic Terror made in USA? http://www.tarpley.net/welcome.html
Or authors Gore Vidal, Bill Douglas or Christopher Bollyn? http://www.informationclearinghouse...rticle13969.htm http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/EnemyWithin.html http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/bollynbeaten.htm
Or if you prefer your message in song, what about putting some of the hard questions to music? Les Visible: 9/11 Was An Inside Job (music) http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pag...fm?bandID=97737
Maybe you don’t trust actors, authors, musicians or poets. You want to hear from a man of God. How about David Ray Griffin theologian, professor emeritus at the Claremont School of Theology? http://911review.com/articles/griffin/nyc1.html
The respected Presbyterian Press has recently published his book Christian Faith and the Truth behind 9/11 https://www.ppcbooks.com/index1.asp
Not just into Christianity? What about MUJCA-NET, a group of scholars, religious leaders and activists dedicated to uniting members of the Jewish, Christian and Islamic faiths in pursuit of 9/11 truth. http://mujca.com/
How about philosophers? What about distinguished McKnight professor of philosophy, Jim Fetzer. http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/...s23Apr2006.html
Or Dr. Jim Hoffman? http://911research.wtc7.net/
What could theologians and philosophers know about national security? You want to hear from insiders to the covert world. How about CIA analyst and former presidential adviser Ray McGovern, an expert on National Security who’s career spanned JFK to GHW Bush. http://www.electricpolitics.com/pod...y_mcgovern.html
Or Bill Christison, a former senior official of the CIA. He was a National Intelligence Officer and the Director of the CIA's Office of Regional and Political Analysis before his retirement in 1979. http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Aug06/Christison14.htm
Or how about David Shayler, the MI5 Whistleblower? [[ LINK REMOVED ]]
Or former cop Michael C. Ruppert? http://www.fromthewilderness.com/store/books.shtml#ruby
Or former 9/11 Commission Member and democrat senator, Max Cleland, who blasts Bush and claims "The White House Has Played Cover-Up". http://www.democracynow.org/article...4/03/23/1546256
Other members of the 9/11 Commission panel also believe that authorities sought to mislead the commission and the public about what happened on Sept. 11.
"I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described," John Farmer, a former New Jersey attorney general who led the staff inquiry into events on Sept. 11, said in a recent interview. "The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years. . . . This is not spin. This is not true." http://unsungwar.com/
Or what about Republican Thomas Kean and Democrat Lee Hamilton, the two chairmen of the official government 9/11 Commission Report? In their book, “Without Precedent: The Inside Story of the 9/11 Commission.” Kean and Hamilton reveal that the US military committed perjury and lied about its failure to intercept the hijacked airliners.
"It proved difficult, if not impossible, to raise hard questions about 9/11 in New York without it being perceived as criticism of the individual police and firefighters or of Mayor Giuliani," Kean and Hamilton said.
The commission even debated referring the military’s lies to the Justice Department for criminal investigation.
Why should we assume that these admissions are the only coverups and lies in the 9/11 Commission Report? http://letsroll911.org/ipw-web/bull...ic.php?p=117589 http://www.informationclearinghouse...rticle14531.htm
Or Cynthia McKinney, a five-term U.S. Congresswoman from Georgia's fourth district from 1993 to 2003, or Catherine Austin Fitts, a former Assistant Secretary of Housing under President George Bush Sr. and a former managing director and board member of Dillon, Read & Co. Inc. http://www.911truth.org/article.php...041101130426916
Or Michael Meacher MP former UK Minister for the environment who says "The war on terror is bogus", or Andreas Von Bulow, former German Secretary Of Defense, who says "The official [9/11] story is so inadequate and far fetched that there must be a different one." [[ LINK REMOVED ]]
Or Sibel Edmonds, a 32-year-old Turkish-American, who was hired as a translator by the FBI shortly after the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 because of her knowledge of Middle Eastern languages. She was fired less than a year later in March 2002 for reporting shoddy work and security breaches to her supervisors that could have prevented those attacks. http://www.justacitizen.com/
Or Daniel Ellsburg, famous Vietnam 'Pentagon Papers' whistleblower and former American military analyst and Special Assistant to the Assistant Secretary of Defense (ISA), DOD. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Ellsberg http://www.911blogger.com/2006/07/d...ut-for-911.html
Or how about the FBI? Did you know that the reason Usama bin Laden isn't on their most wanted list in connection to 9/11 is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting him to the crimes? http://www.911blogger.com/2006/06/f...e-connects.html
What about another country's government, such as the Venezuelan government under Hugo Chavez, supported by billionaire philanthropist Jimmy Walter and WTC survivor William Rodriguez, which is set to launch an international investigation into 9/11? http://www.iraqwar.mirror-world.ru/article/83785
Maybe they're all too far left for you! You want to hear from a Republican. How about Paul Craig Roberts assistant secretary of the U.S. Treasury under Ronald Reagan? http://www.tpmcafe.com/node/28070 http://www.electricpolitics.com/pod...06/02/post.html http://www.wanttoknow.info/050908insidejob911#roberts http://www.informationclearinghouse...rticle14531.htm
OK, he’s a Republican, but that was back in the Reagan days. So how about Ron Paul, a Republican congressman from Texas? http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul200.html http://www.house.gov/paul/ http://demopedia.democraticundergro...ex.php/Ron_Paul
#Congressman_Ron_Paul_Admits_Conspiracy_to_Create_World_Government
Maybe you need to hear from someone in GW’s administration. How about Morgan Reynolds professor emeritus at Texas A&M University and chief economist for the US Department of Labor during Bush’s first term? He believes the events of 9/11 were a staged event, orchestrated by people within the Bush government. http://www.lewrockwell.com/reynolds/reynolds12.html
Since the attacks of 911 were obviously a crime, maybe you want to hear from trained legal minds. People whose job it is to carefully investigate the details of a crime and reach a well considered conclusion.
Well, how about attorney Philip Berg? Berg, who has filed a lawsuit against the Bush admin on behalf of WTC survivor William Rodriguez says "They (Bush et al) made it happen or let it happen. And if they let it happen, then they made it happen. And they must be held responsible." http://www.911forthetruth.com/
Or attorney Stanley Hilton? http://www.suetheterrorists.net/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Hilton
Or Bill Veale, with 30 years of legal experience. After much research he has come to the conclusion that the attacks of 9/11 were in essence an inside job perpetrated at the highest levels of the U.S. government. http://www.vealetruth.com/?page_id=6
Maybe none of the above does it for you. You want to hear from "eye-witnesses" - people who were there on the scene on that fateful day. May I suggest you listen to the firefighters who were in the building at the time? [[ LINK REMOVED ]]
What about first responder, NY Fireman Lou Cacchioli who says the 9/11 Commission twisted his words. "I finally walked out. They were trying to twist my words and make the story fit only what they wanted to hear. All I wanted to do was tell the truth and when they wouldn't let me do that, I walked out.
"It was a disgrace to everyone, the victims and the family members who lost loved ones. I don't agree with the 9/11 Commission. The whole experience was terrible", Fireman Lou says. http://www.prisonplanet.com/article...wistedwords.htm
Or perhaps to news reporters who were on the scene who repeatedly described hearing "explosions"? http://tinyurl.com/bzg64 (you need to fast forward a little...) http://www.letsroll911.org/articles...demolition.html
Or how about WTC survivor William Rodriguez, a janitor who worked at the WTC for about 19 years, and was decorated as a 911 hero by Bush. He testifies that he heard and felt explosions in the basement of the North Tower BEFORE the planes hit overhead. William asks: "How could a jetliner hit 90 floors above and burn a man's arms and face to a crisp in the basement below within seconds of impact?" It's a good question! http://williamrodriguezwtc.blogspot.com/ http://www.911forthetruth.com/
What about the families who lost loved ones on 911? http://www.911independentcommission.org/questions.html http://www.911truth.org/index.php?topic=endorsements
Lorie Van Auken, Mindy Kleinberg, Patty Casazza and Monica Gabrielle of New Jersey lost their husbands Kenneth, Alan, Richard and John who all worked in the WTC. Sally Regenhard lost her firefighter son Christian, and Bob McIlvaine lost his son Bobby.
None of these people are satisfied with the official story of what happened on 9/11. Will you listen to their questions? http://www.911pressfortruth.com/families
Well, if you don't believe any of them, why not listen to the OWNER of the WTC, Larry Silverstein, who admits on Public Broadcast Television that explosives were used to demolish WTC building #7?!
Yes, Silverstein, who had conveniently insured these buildings (which had been ordered to be dismantled due to safety hazards) for billions of dollars just weeks before 911, said on public television:
"(The Fire Department) were not sure that they were gonna be able to contain the fire. I said, you know, we´ve had such terrible loss of life. Maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it. They made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse"
In the demolition industry, “pull” is the common term they use for demolishing buildings with carefully positioned explosives, an operation that can take seasoned professionals weeks to plan. http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/rosebud/wtc_7_archivel.htm http://www.letsroll911.org/articles...demolition.html http://www.wtc7.net/ http://911physics.co.nr/ (Click on WTC 7 link)
So even the building owner admits that explosives were used to demolish at least one of the three WTC buildings!
And if planning to demolish WTC 7 had been carefully prepared for weeks, why not the other two?
Maybe you don’t want to listen to any of these individuals, but the fact is, a lot of Americans agree with them. Like the 83% of over 50,000 CNN Showbiz Tonight online poll respondents who think the government is covering up the truth of 9/11. http://www.911blogger.com/2006/03/f...ghts-sheen.html
Or a Scripps Howard News Service/Ohio University poll taken from July 6 to 24, 2006, concluded that “more than a third [36 percent] of the American public suspects that federal officials assisted in the 9/11 terrorist attacks or took no action to stop them, so that the United States could go to war in the Middle East.” A poll done by the Zogby polling organization two months earlier, between May 12 and 16, 2006, concluded that 42 percent of Americans believed there had indeed been a cover-up of the true events of 9/11, and an additional 10 percent of Americans were “unsure.” http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Aug06/Christison14.htm
Maybe you don’t care what the American people think?
Yea, we know.
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WHAT POSSIBLE MOTIVES COULD THERE BE FOR A 9/11 INSIDE JOB??
These are some of the plutocracy's 'foreign policy' and other lesser goals that 9/11 (the "new Pearl Harbor") has helped them to pursue:
* to get the American people's support for an endless bogus "war on terror" which will ensure continued gargantuan military budgets. This will continue to enrich and empower the plutocracy and the military/industrial complex. http://www.addictedtowar.com/
* the WTC buildings needed massive repairs - or to be demolished altogether - which would have caused a financial loss to the owners. But instead the owner (the Silverstein group), who had conveniently insured the WTC complex against terrorism only weeks before, got paid out billions in insurance, allowing them to not only rebuild, but make a hefty profit also http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/20...16/18297965.php
* insider trading - there were 'put options' placed on airline stocks (a sort of bet that the stock will go down) days before the attacks which made someone millions of dollars
* to help James Baker negotiate massive repatriations from Iraq to Kuwait, making the Bush family/Carlysle Group billions in the process.
* it has been suggested there was a massive amount of gold bullion in the basement beneath the WTC that was looted on 9/11 (unconfirmed).
* the removal of Saddam Hussein
* the removal of the Taliban
* a possible war on Iran?
* to help further the goals of Israel
* the establishment of permanent military bases in the oil rich Middle East
* to keep the price of oil artificially high, so as to ensure continued massive profits for the OPEC countries/oil companies. http://www.gregpalast.com/big-oil-a...ollar-war-bonus http://www.gregpalast.com/the-best-...rld-for-big-oil
* the spread of "globalisation" and "corporatism" (i.e. big business and money) e.g. massive contracts for Halliburton and other crony firms with ties to Washington, control of the production and price of oil http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programm...ght/4354269.stm
* "a means to install a unipolar world with a sole world headquarters, a pretext to erase national borders and to establish the rule of a new world elite” and
* “is a phenomenon that combines the use of terror by state and non-state political structures as a means to attain their political objectives through people’s intimidation, psychological and social destabilization, the elimination of resistance from power organizations and the creation of appropriate conditions for the manipulation of the countries’ policies and the behavior of people.” http://www.globalresearch.ca/index....&articleId=1788
* arguably to reassert their control of the opium trade (if this sounds crazy, then remember, Britain had opium wars with China in the 19th Century to keep control of this lucrative trade, so this is nothing new). btw, Afghanistan is the world's leading producer of opium. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060816...ghan_opium_boom
* to establish a precedent for the role of "pre-emptive" war in their efforts to shape the world according to their belief systems (this will make their next "pre-emptive" war easier to push through).
* to shake the "Vietnam Syndrome" and get the American people accustomed to the deaths of thousands of their sons (about 2,800 so far plus tens of thousands more maimed or injured) in order to serve the goals of the plutocracy
* the spread of "democracy" (TM) and "freedom" (TM) across the Middle East
( For example, I believe Hitler was sincere in his desire to establish a "glorious thousand year Reich". Likewise, the ideologues in Washington also have certain belief systems about how the world should be, and are more than willing to use violence and military force to achieve their aims.
This isn't conspiracy theory, btw. Just look at the "shock & awe" campaign which murdered and maimed tens of thousands of innocent people in Baghdad, or you can read their own words here: http://www.newamericancentury.org/ Read through their visions for the world, and see how many you agree with.)
* to pass legislation that removes the rights of dissenters who object to these goals (e.g. the PATRIOT Act, 'anti-terrorism' laws, government domestic surveillance etc.)
So there are plenty of motives for a 9/11 inside job!
SO WHAT CAN YOU DO?
Even if you are still skeptical, but think there are too many questions about the events of September 11 2001 that need answers, here are a few suggestions:
Ask Oprah to host a three-part special that investigates 9/11 http://oprah.bravocharlie911.com/
Sign the petition to release the 9/11 information that is currently being held by the U.S. government to an independent review: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/929981172
Get informed and share these links to several 9/11 investigative documentaries with your friends:
Loose Change Second Edition Not perfect, but well researched and very thought provoking. [[ LINK REMOVED ]]
911: In Plane Site Hard-hitting investigative journalism. http://unsungwar.com/
911 Press for the Truth The families of 911 victims speak out and question the official story of 911. http://www.911pressfortruth.com/
Rise Short and sweet - to the point! http://unsungwar.com/videos/Rise.swf
9/11 Revisited This film provides stunning evidence that pre-planted explosives were used in the complete demolition of the WTC twin towers and WTC 7. http://911revisited.infad.net/video.html
9/11 Eyewitness A rigorous scientific analysis of the destruction of the WTC towers. http://www.freedomisforeverybody.org/911Eyewitness.php
Here is an archive of a large selection of thought provoking documentaries you may like to check out. http://www.question911.com/links.php http://www.universalseed.org/
"The most powerful weapon of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed." Don't give them yours! http://www.snowshoefilms.com/
Perspective 9-11 This research will give you an insight into the story behind the 9-11 attacks. http://tinyurl.com/layem
American Scholars’ Symposium Scholarly panel which met in Los Angeles for two days to discuss what really happened on September 11, 2001. The consensus: no doubt, it was an inside job. http://www.infowars.com/articles/se...ns_momentum.htm http://www.c-span.org/homepage.asp?...APS&ShowVidNum=
10&Rot_Cat_CD=APS&Rot_HT=206&Rot_WD=&ShowVidDays=100&ShowVidDesc=&ArchiveDays=100
Everybody's Gotta Learn Some Time Compelling film outlining many disturbing and heavily censored facts associated with the worst terrorist attacks in American history. [[ LINK REMOVED ]]
David Shayler - ex-MI5 whistleblower David Shayler introduces 911 Truth Bristol's ‘Face the Facts’ and explains why 911 is of vital importance today. [[ LINK REMOVED ]]
Unitarian pastor Davidson Loehr explains the PNAC drive to reshape a new world order and the connection to the attacks of 9/11. http://www.jonesreport.com/articles...tin_pastor.html
Pentagon Strike** What hit the Pentagon? http://unsungwar.com/videos/pentagonstrike.swf
9/11 Special: Dutch Television Documentary (20 minutes) Two senior government ministers express grave doubts about the official 9/11 stories and the so-called "war on terror". [[ LINK REMOVED ]]
Discover the Truth about the Events surrounding 9-11-01 via Video Presentations from some of the top Scholars, Researchers, and Analysts from the International Community. http://911busters.com/
TerrorStorm (Alex Jones) Alex Jones' latest film covers in detail the proven history of government sponsored terrorism, and focuses on the 7/7 London bombings and 9/11. [[ LINK REMOVED ]]
911: The Greatest Lie Ever Sold by Anthony Hilder Sometimes quite opinionated, a bit long, but some valuable information never-the-less. Worth watching. [[ LINK REMOVED ]]
911 Guilt: The Proof is in Your Hands A Video Exposing the Core Facts of the September 11th Attack http://wtc7.net/store/videos/proof/index.html
Watch David Ray Griffin, professor of theology, and other speakers who speak candidly and lucidly about the events of 911. http://911busters.com/911_new_video...ions/index.html
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And finally, if you still think it's all bunkum and you can debunk the 9/11 "tin-foil hat" conspiracy brigade, then take the million dollar challenge! I'm sure you could use a spare million bucks?
http://www.reopen911.org/Contest.htm
** Please note that this reader and I disagree on the issue of what hit the Pentagon. |
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