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The ultimate Israel - Palestine Thread (it's all here) (pg. 155)
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shaolin_Z
Yeah, this demonstrates the desire for peace. :rolleyes:

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Israel 'to step up Gaza shelling'

Israel has said it will intensify its artillery bombardment of the Gaza Strip to deter rocket attacks by Palestinian militants on its territory.


Officials said they regretted the recent deaths of a number of Palestinian civilians but were set on stopping the rocket attacks.

An eight-year-old girl killed by a shell on Monday has been buried.

She was the 16th Palestinian to die in Israeli air and artillery attacks on Gaza in the past four days.

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You [the Israeli army] didn't hit the people who fired the rockets, you hit the little kids and civilians
Mohammed
Father of child victim Hadil Ghraben


For months, the Israeli army has been firing artillery rounds into open areas of northern Gaza in an effort to strike at, or deter, militants.

Israeli Defence Minister Shaul Mofaz said the shelling was in direct response to militant attacks.

"As long as calm does not prevail on the Israeli side, neither will it do so on the Palestinian side," he said. "Our operations are going to intensify."

The Palestinians' new Hamas prime minister, Ismail Haniya, accused Israel of trying to bring the Palestinian people "to their knees" and "strangling" his government.

Apology

People gathered in a clearing next to an olive grove on Tuesday to mourn the latest civilian victim of the shelling, eight-year-old Hadil Ghraben.

She was watching television in her house in the northern village of Beit Lahiya when an Israeli shell came crashing through the roof, killing her instantly.

Seven of her brothers and sisters were hurt.

The Israelis admit there was no militant rocket fire from the area at the time but they say there had been earlier, and that they had been trying to deter more.

An army officer telephoned to apologise to Hadil's father, Mohammed, but he was unimpressed.

"I told him 'you didn't hit the people who fired the rockets, you hit the little kids and civilians'," Mohammed told the BBC.

" 'What did those kids do? They were at home, inside. And now you call to apologise'."

Revenge vow

There was a chaotic scene as Hadil's body arrived from the hospital to be borne through the crowd of grieving relatives.

A woman among the mourners delivered a message for the Israelis: "We will cut you to pieces, I swear it, just as you have done to us."

The BBC's Alan Johnston, who was at the funeral, said militants with guns, from organisations like Islamic Jihad, were moving among the mourners.

It is groups like these that are firing rockets into Israel, saying they are responding to Israel's escalation of the violence and the killing of militants in recent days, our correspondent says.

For its part, Israel says it is determined to stamp out the rocket fire and it is using its big guns more and more aggressively, he adds.


Source: BBC
shaolin_Z
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Israel: Military Must Account for Killings of Two Children

Judge Advocate General Must Ensure Quality of Investigations, Not Just Quantity


(Jerusalem, February 8, 2006) – The Israel Defense Forces’ top judicial officer should demonstrate his resolve to combat impunity by immediately ordering thorough and effective criminal investigations into the latest shooting deaths of Palestinian children by Israeli forces during policing operations, Human Rights Watch said today.
The Israeli military’s judge advocate general, Brigadier-General Avihai Mandelblit, in December told a gathering of Israeli nongovernmental organizations in Tel Aviv that the number of criminal investigations was increasing under his tenure, which began in July 2004. He asserted that the total number of criminal investigations since September 2000 had now reached 200.

In June 2005, the judge advocate general’s office announced that it had opened only 131 criminal investigations into the unlawful death and injury of Palestinians at the hands of the Israel Defense Forces since the current intifada began in September 2000. During that same period, outside any combat situation, Israeli soldiers killed at least 1,722 Palestinians – more than one-third of whom were children – and injured thousands more, according to the Israeli human rights group B’Tselem. But since September 2000, the judge advocate general’s office has announced only 28 indictments and seven convictions of Israeli soldiers on charges related to unlawful killing or injury.

“The Israeli military’s failure to conduct effective investigations into civilian killings has fostered impunity in its ranks,” said Sarah Leah Whitson, Middle East director at Human Rights Watch. “Increasing the number of investigations is a step in the right direction and must continue, but the ultimate test is whether they bring wrongdoers to justice.”

On January 23, Israeli soldiers shot a 13-year-old Palestinian boy in the back as he walked along a West Bank road reserved for Jewish settlers. The boy, Munadel Abu Aalia, from the nearby village of El-Mughayer (near Ramallah), died the same day. After first telling the press that the boy and his friends were planning to throw stones at settler cars, Israeli military officials then told journalists that the boys were planting an explosive device.

The Israel Defense Forces’ allegation that the boy posed a threat should not preempt a criminal investigation since media accounts suggest that the incident occurred outside the context of any exchange of fire, he was shot in the back, he reportedly was far from any conceivable target when he was shot, and the incident occurred in broad daylight. The soldiers did not fire warning shots or attempt to question or arrest the boys first.

In a second incident, soldiers patrolling Israel’s border with the Gaza Strip on January 26 shot dead a 9-year-old Palestinian girl on the other side, not far from her home in Khan Younis. Gaza-based human rights organizations investigating the case found that Israeli forces had opened indiscriminate fire on Aya al-Astal without warning when they saw something moving near the border.

Afterwards, the Israeli military contacted Palestinian security officials in Gaza to announce that their “soldiers shot and hit a terrorist.” The girl’s mother told the press, however, that her daughter was small, unveiled and should have been easily identifiable as a child. Her father said that she was mentally disabled and had become lost after wandering from the house. According to the girl’s family and paramedics, the girl was shot multiple times in the neck, leg, arm and stomach. The Israel Defense Forces have not accounted for the mistaken identity or their rules of engagement at the border, warranting an immediate criminal investigation.

As noted above, both of these shooting deaths occurred outside the context of any armed conflict or exchange of fire. In such situations, even if the victim is engaged in criminal conduct, Israeli security forces should have been operating according to international law enforcement standards, which are governed by the U.N. Basic Principles on the Use of Force and Firearms by Law Enforcement Officials and the U.N. Code of Conduct for Law Enforcement Officials.

According to these international standards for policing, security forces should resort to the intentional use of lethal force only when it is “strictly unavoidable in order to protect life.” As noted above, eyewitness accounts and the pattern of lethal injuries on the two children indicate a serious breach of these standards.

While the Israel Defense Forces immediately announced their intention to open a probe into the death of the boy, the military’s spokesperson was unable to tell Human Rights Watch whether they had opened a similar probe in the case of the girl. However, the media reported that an internal probe was launched in the girl’s case, and that the judge advocate general’s office had already found no fault in the judgment used by the unit commander and found that the shooting was carried out according to open fire regulations.

However, the military’s spokesperson told Human Rights Watch that the inquiry into the boy’s death was an internal army probe, or “operational debrief.” In a report published in June, Human Rights Watch documented how these debriefs fall far short of international standards for criminal investigations, and fail to establish the truth and bring perpetrators to justice.

First, the debriefs rely solely on the testimony of the implicated soldiers and are often carried out by the soldiers’ peers in the same unit. International standards dictate that investigators must be effectively independent from those implicated. The debriefs do not seek or consider testimony from victims or non-military witnesses, and do not attempt to reconcile discrepancies between the soldiers’ accounts and evidence presented by eyewitnesses, medical authorities or video. In the past, these debriefs have seriously delayed and impeded any criminal investigation.

In addition, the Israeli government has failed to provide an effective remedy including fair and adequate compensation to victims of grave human rights violations. As Human Rights Watch outlined in a letter to members of the Israeli Knesset, the State Liability Law as amended by the Knesset in July now makes it extremely difficult for Palestinians injured by Israeli security forces to sue for compensation in Israeli courts.


Source: HumanRightsWatch
hardcore trancer
These are the same s that bitch and moad about Iran.:rolleyes:

in Israeli terrorists.:whip:
ogvh5150

Girl, 11, 'raped by 35 soldiers'
From correspondents in Jerusalem
02-05-2006
From: Agence France-Presse


IT'S being described as the worst sexual abuse scandal in the Israeli army's history.
As many as 35 Israeli soldiers are suspected of statutory rape of an 11-year-old girl who lived with her family on an air force base in southern Israel.

Defence lawyers say the girl, now in counselling, lied to the soldiers about her age, claiming she was older, and that the sex was consensual. Regardless, legal experts said the soldiers could still be prosecuted for statutory rape.

The case marks a new low for the military, once Israel's most revered institution, tarnished in recent years by incidents of financial corruption and sexual misconduct.

Limited details released by the military indicate at least 17 Israeli air force soldiers have been investigated, and several others are likely to be called in.

The girl lived with her family on the base where her father, a career military man, served.

The family has since left the base and the girl is under psychological care, the army said.
Girl, 11, 'raped by 35 soldiers'
shaolin_Z
Disgusting.
ogvh5150
Israel's Rabbis for Human Rights, which has built up a reputation for battling abuses by soldiers and settlers in the Palestinian territories, was honoured in Japan with a leading peace prize.
The Jerusalem-based organisation's chairman Rabbi Maayan Turner collected the Niwano Peace Foundation award at a ceremony in Tokyo attended by government ministers and diplomats.
RHR has developed into a bete noire of the Israeli right for its work in trying to stop settlement activity, land appropriation and destruction of farm land in the West Bank since its foundation in 1988.
But Turner told the ceremony that it was vital for religious leaders to be prepared to speak out.
"If we do not decry the abuses of power and the injustices of our country, then they will remain with us, destroying our society from within much more effectively than any enemy without," he said in Tokyo.
The peace prize, which is awarded annually by the Niwano Peace Foundation honours individuals and organisations that have made major contributions to inter-faith understanding and cooperation.
Israeli rabbis awarded Japan peace prize
shaolin_Z
Lemonad
quote:
Originally posted by ogvh5150

Girl, 11, 'raped by 35 soldiers'
From correspondents in Jerusalem
02-05-2006
From: Agence France-Presse


IT'S being described as the worst sexual abuse scandal in the Israeli army's history.
As many as 35 Israeli soldiers are suspected of statutory rape of an 11-year-old girl who lived with her family on an air force base in southern Israel.

Defence lawyers say the girl, now in counselling, lied to the soldiers about her age, claiming she was older, and that the sex was consensual. Regardless, legal experts said the soldiers could still be prosecuted for statutory rape.

The case marks a new low for the military, once Israel's most revered institution, tarnished in recent years by incidents of financial corruption and sexual misconduct.

Limited details released by the military indicate at least 17 Israeli air force soldiers have been investigated, and several others are likely to be called in.

The girl lived with her family on the base where her father, a career military man, served.

The family has since left the base and the girl is under psychological care, the army said.
Girl, 11, 'raped by 35 soldiers'


Well they are Israelis after all, i mean i don't understand them. Do they truly believe they can do anything they want and get away with it.

It's like the Romans and Egyptians knew something about the Jews that many people didn't. The Romans had plenty of Jewish slaves, Babylonia was full of Jewish slaves and Egypt had plenty of them too.. The leaders of those empires probably thought they were a bunch of useless breed, and here walks in Persia in it's grand stance and conquers those empires and frees all the Jews (how nice) to return back to their homeland, and now the Persians good deed has backfired on them after releasing them, unfortuntely the American media will hide most of their atrosicities against humanity.

It's like a guy seeing a dogs foot being caught in the net and after freeing the dog, the dog bites you back. Resemble anything with Israel?

Anyways i doubt this news about the rape caught any major headlines in America, right? Of course not!

It's like the only way the Israelis can fight is to hide behind a wall and command other countries to do their dirty work for them and the only way to hurt people within the range is to kill children, rape children, kill civilians and put themselves in the league of the biggest cockroaches in this world.
ogvh5150
Peace, Propaganda & The Promised Land
Bathsheba Ratzkoff and Sut Jhally
1 hr 19 min 14 sec - Apr 22, 2006
on Google Video:



edonkey uri link (must have emule/shareaza/edonkey to capture link):
Peace.Propaganda.and.The.Promised.Land.DIVX.avi

or just copy and paste:
ed2k://|file|Peace.Propaganda.and.The.Promised.Land.DIVX.avi|733212672|21AB9C4580E5DAE2A4BF38F10B48DBD0|/
shaolin_Z
What's the name of this documentary?

Edit: Nevermind :).

stevieboy32808
quote:
Originally posted by ogvh5150
Peace, Propaganda & The Promised Land
Bathsheba Ratzkoff and Sut Jhally
1 hr 19 min 14 sec - Apr 22, 2006
on Google Video:
edonkey uri link (must have emule/shareaza/edonkey to capture link):
Peace.Propaganda.and.The.Promised.Land.DIVX.avi

or just copy and paste:
ed2k://|file|Peace.Propaganda.and.The.Promised.Land.DIVX.avi|733212672|21AB9C4580E5DAE2A4BF38F10B48DBD0|/

I just saw the whole video and now sympathize more with the Palestinians. Before I was neutral about the whole situation, but after having seen the manipulation that was right under my nose it's safe to say that when it comes to covering the Israeli-Palestinian conflict I will have to turn to non-U.S. media coverage.

The documentary itself explains a lot of things I never knew about. For example, it explains how the U.S. had plenty of opportunities to sign a bunch of U.N. peace resolutions that would have ended the conflict altogether, but vetoed them instead in order to keep economic interests alive between Israel, particularly oil interests. I believe the documenatary calls it veto power. How selfish of us.

Another important aspect and the main topic of the video is how much spin is put on the news media and the amount of time spent by corporations to cater to their global affairs by pressuring journalists to deliver Pro-Israel stories only. Even Isreal themselves have a public relations group called the "Hasbara Project established in 1983 aimed to ensure good press in the U.S. media." It's amazing to see how corporate the situation has gotten.

All in all, that documentary was quite an eye opener for me and a learning experience. Thanks for a great share ogvh5150!
ogvh5150
quote:
Originally posted by stevieboy32808
Thanks for a great share ogvh5150!


You're welcome. Now if only that mustard guy had anything to say.....

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ABOUT ISRAEL'S NUCLEAR WEAPONS

I am continuing to work for a Middle East free of NWs [nuclear weapons], especially in Israel.
My act was very important because it was dealing with the phenomena that Israel introduced of cheating, lying, spreading NWs in secret.
My mission and target is to make all the world free from NWs, to ban NWs production and possession, in all the world, including by the super powers.
The threat of NWs lost its justification since the cold war. They were created for fighting communism, but now, against whom would they want to use NWs?
So we can demand to free all the world from all kinds of NWs.

-Mordechai Vanunu, August 2 2005

From The Mordechai Vanunu website:
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