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The ultimate Israel - Palestine Thread (it's all here) (pg. 59)
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| DJ-Kreing^^ |
| quote: | Originally posted by ogvh5150
Jews are not a religious group, but a separate nation, a special race, and the modern Jew who denies this is not only an apostate, a religious renegade, but a traitor to his people, his tribe, his race.
Moses Hess -Zionist
I am not an American citizen of the Jewish faith, I am a Jew…Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the Jewish people a race and we are a race.
Stephen S. Wise former president of the American Jewish Congress and the World Jewish Congress |
And…? Whats your point?
What message exactly are you trying to convey with those quotes?
Next time you post here, try asking yourself if the thing you are about to type has anything to do with the discussion. |
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| ogvh5150 |
I am the only one that goes off topic.
Next time before you put your hand on the keyboard you might want to read why the discussion did stray a little off course. |
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| Flotser |
i dont care about going off topic.
i just realy dont get you point?
jews are considered a race, so?
accoring to Genisis abraham is the father of many nations, so?
why the hell does that mean that israel:
| quote: | Originally posted by ogvh5150
If they could, they would wipe off all the goy from the face of the world and they would succeed if they could and with all probability they will. |
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| ogvh5150 |
@Flotser
Maybe you need to see that I was refering to DJ-Kreing^^ in my last statement.
let's get back on topic.
The Cruelty of the IDF Part II: |
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| Palestinian |
Weekly report on human rights violations
Report, PCHR, 3 February 2005
27 January - 2 February 2005
Despite ongoing understandings between the Israeli and Palestinian sides on a ceasefire and the Palestinian commitment to these understandings, Israeli occupation forces (IOF) have launched more attacks against Palestinian civilians in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (OPT). This week, 8 Palestinian civilians, including 3 children and 2 mentally handicapped persons, were killed by IOF.
Human rights violations perpetrated by IOF included incursions into Palestinian areas, willful killing, indiscriminate shelling, land leveling and total closure imposed on Palestinian communities. IOF have also continued to construct the annexation wall inside the West Bank territory.
In the Gaza Strip, 4 Palestinian civilians, including a child, were killed by IOF, and a child died from a previous injury. On 27 and 28 January 2005, IOF killed 2 mentally handicapped Palestinian civilians near Israeli military checkpoints in Khan Yunis and Gaza. On 29 January 2005, a Palestinian child from Khan Yunis died from a previous injury he had sustained when IOF shelled residential areas in the town.
On 30 January 2005, an old man was killed by IOF near the Egyptian border, south of Rafah. On 31 January 2005, an 11-year-old Palestinian schoolchild was killed when IOF opened fire at her school in Rafah. Palestinian educational institutions have been frequently attacked by IOF, and PCHR has documented dozens of such attacks, which injured dozens of schoolchildren while they were at school. In two of such attacks in September and October 2004, 2 schoolchildren were killed by IOF in Khan Yunis refugee camp, when the two were sitting on their desks.
This week, IOF moved twice into al-Mawasi area in Khan Yunis, which has been under a strict siege since the beginning of the current Intifada. They raided houses and arrested 5 Palestinian civilians.
In the West Bank, on Thursday, 27 January 2005, IOF killed 2 Palestinian civilians, including a child, and a third Palestinian was killed when the tent where he was detained in Mageddo Prison inside Israel burnt. The two civilians were killed by the explosion of 2 mysterious objects believed to be have been left there by the IOF.
Furthermore, IOF also moved into various areas throughout the West Bank, injured a number of Palestinian civilians and arrested dozens of others. Israeli settlers living in the OPT in violation of international humanitarian law have launched a series of attacks against Palestinian civilians and property. IOF have continued to confiscate areas of Palestinian land for settlement activities.
IOF have continued to construct the annexation wall inside the West Bank Territory. For this purpose, they expropriated 2362 donums[1] of Palestinian agricultural land in al-Jeeb village, northwest of Jerusalem. They also resumed land leveling in the east of al-Ram village, northeast of Jerusalem, and at the main road between al-Ram village and Dahiat al-Barid area, north of Jerusalem.
Contrary to Israeli claims, IOF have continued to impose a tightened siege on the OPT and have imposed severe restrictions on the movement of Palestinian civilians in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, including Jerusalem.
In the Gaza Strip, IOF have continued to completely or partially close all border crossings of the Gaza Strip, and impose severe restrictions on the internal movement of Palestinian civilians. IOF have continued to prevent Palestinians aged 16-35 from traveling through Rafah International Crossing Point on the Egyptian border, even though the crossing point was re-opened on 1 February 2005.
In the West Bank, IOF have continued to impose a strict siege on Palestinian communities. They have also imposed severe restrictions on the movement of Palestinian civilians. They also arrested a number of Palestinian civilians while traveling through military checkpoints. Furthermore, IOF have continued to impose a strict siege on Saida village, north of Tulkarm. |
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| hardcore trancer |
| and then the Isreali's bitch about why they get attacked :rolleyes: |
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| shaolin_Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by Palestinian
Weekly report on human rights violations
Report, PCHR, 3 February 2005
27 January - 2 February 2005
Despite ongoing understandings between the Israeli and Palestinian sides on a ceasefire and the Palestinian commitment to these understandings, Israeli occupation forces (IOF) have launched more attacks against Palestinian civilians in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (OPT). This week, 8 Palestinian civilians, including 3 children and 2 mentally handicapped persons, were killed by IOF.
Human rights violations perpetrated by IOF included incursions into Palestinian areas, willful killing, indiscriminate shelling, land leveling and total closure imposed on Palestinian communities. IOF have also continued to construct the annexation wall inside the West Bank territory.
In the Gaza Strip, 4 Palestinian civilians, including a child, were killed by IOF, and a child died from a previous injury. On 27 and 28 January 2005, IOF killed 2 mentally handicapped Palestinian civilians near Israeli military checkpoints in Khan Yunis and Gaza. On 29 January 2005, a Palestinian child from Khan Yunis died from a previous injury he had sustained when IOF shelled residential areas in the town.
On 30 January 2005, an old man was killed by IOF near the Egyptian border, south of Rafah. On 31 January 2005, an 11-year-old Palestinian schoolchild was killed when IOF opened fire at her school in Rafah. Palestinian educational institutions have been frequently attacked by IOF, and PCHR has documented dozens of such attacks, which injured dozens of schoolchildren while they were at school. In two of such attacks in September and October 2004, 2 schoolchildren were killed by IOF in Khan Yunis refugee camp, when the two were sitting on their desks.
This week, IOF moved twice into al-Mawasi area in Khan Yunis, which has been under a strict siege since the beginning of the current Intifada. They raided houses and arrested 5 Palestinian civilians.
In the West Bank, on Thursday, 27 January 2005, IOF killed 2 Palestinian civilians, including a child, and a third Palestinian was killed when the tent where he was detained in Mageddo Prison inside Israel burnt. The two civilians were killed by the explosion of 2 mysterious objects believed to be have been left there by the IOF.
Furthermore, IOF also moved into various areas throughout the West Bank, injured a number of Palestinian civilians and arrested dozens of others. Israeli settlers living in the OPT in violation of international humanitarian law have launched a series of attacks against Palestinian civilians and property. IOF have continued to confiscate areas of Palestinian land for settlement activities.
IOF have continued to construct the annexation wall inside the West Bank Territory. For this purpose, they expropriated 2362 donums[1] of Palestinian agricultural land in al-Jeeb village, northwest of Jerusalem. They also resumed land leveling in the east of al-Ram village, northeast of Jerusalem, and at the main road between al-Ram village and Dahiat al-Barid area, north of Jerusalem.
Contrary to Israeli claims, IOF have continued to impose a tightened siege on the OPT and have imposed severe restrictions on the movement of Palestinian civilians in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, including Jerusalem.
In the Gaza Strip, IOF have continued to completely or partially close all border crossings of the Gaza Strip, and impose severe restrictions on the internal movement of Palestinian civilians. IOF have continued to prevent Palestinians aged 16-35 from traveling through Rafah International Crossing Point on the Egyptian border, even though the crossing point was re-opened on 1 February 2005.
In the West Bank, IOF have continued to impose a strict siege on Palestinian communities. They have also imposed severe restrictions on the movement of Palestinian civilians. They also arrested a number of Palestinian civilians while traveling through military checkpoints. Furthermore, IOF have continued to impose a strict siege on Saida village, north of Tulkarm. |
Wow, Israel is certainly trying it's hardest to reduce terrorism and be at peace with the Palestinians.:rolleyes: |
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| Flotser |
| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Wow, Israel is certainly trying it's hardest to reduce terrorism and be at peace with the Palestinians.:rolleyes: |
you are mistaken. its IOF's fault, not israel's. |
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| shaolin_Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by Flotser
you are mistaken. its IOF's fault, not israel's. |
which has absolutely nooooooooooooooooooothing to do with Israel.:rolleyes: |
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| shaolin_Z |
Israel-Palestinian truce 'likely'
Israeli and Palestinian leaders will sign a truce on Tuesday to end four years of fighting, reports say.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4244493.stm
Palestinian, I'd like to hear your thoughts on this. |
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| shaolin_Z |
Gee, I wonder where they recruit suicide bombers from.
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Israel: Reject Plan to Demolish Gaza Homes
(Jerusalem, January 23, 2005) – Israel’s Attorney General should reject the Israeli military’s proposal to destroy up to 3,000 Palestinian homes under the guise of building an anti-smuggling trench along the Gaza-Egypt border, Human Rights Watch said today. The proposal would have a devastating impact on the civilian population and would violate international humanitarian law.
According to press reports, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) presented Attorney General Menachem Mazuz with three plans for constructing a trench on the so-called Philadelphi route, which runs along the southern edge of Rafah on the Gaza-Egypt border. The narrowest route would destroy 200 homes, and the widest would demolish 3,000.
In a letter to the attorney general, Human Rights Watch said that the IDF have failed to seriously explore techniques less destructive to civilian property in order to detect tunnels and neutralize the threat they may present.
[B]“Israel’s security does not require the massive destruction of civilian homes that these trench proposals would entail,” [B]said Sarah Leah Whitson, Middle East director at Human Rights Watch. “Instead of employing methods to detect and destroy tunnels like those used along the Korean DMZ, the Israeli military is using smuggling as a pretext to demolish more Palestinian homes along the Rafah border.”
An Israeli official has said the widest route would not withstand legal scrutiny. Human Rights Watch has found that even the narrowest option cannot withstand legal scrutiny either. According to international humanitarian law, Israel as an occupying power may destroy civilian property in these circumstances only when “rendered absolutely necessary by military operations.” Destroying such property to improve the general security of the Occupying Power’s military force, or as a broad precaution against hypothetical threats, is prohibited.
“This proposal is consistent with the IDF’s campaign to establish an ever-widening buffer zone empty of Palestinians,” Whitson said. “The IDF destroys homes to expand the zone, builds fortifications closer to inhabited areas, and then destroys more homes to protect these new positions.”
Since 2000, the IDF has illegally destroyed hundreds of homes to expand the buffer zone south of Rafah, which is now up to 300 meters wide. Sixteen thousand people, more than 10 percent of Rafah’s population, have lost their homes. In 2003, the IDF completed construction of an eight-meter-high metal wall in the already cleared zone to protect its troops, and IDF soldiers patrol the border behind this wall. Despite this extra protection, the rate of home demolitions in Rafah tripled in 2003 in comparison with the previous two years.
Human Rights Watch’s detailed investigation of the Rafah border zone, published as a 133-page report in October 2004, found that the IDF has greatly exaggerated the number of actual tunnels as a pretext to justify home demolitions and illegally expand the buffer zone. The IDF has apparently failed to explore well-established methods to detect and destroy tunnels—like seismic sensors, electromagnetic induction and ground-penetrating radar—that have been used effectively on the Mexican-U.S. border and the Korean demilitarized zone.
“Before insisting on a trench, the IDF should show that these non-lethal and much less destructive alternatives have been tried and failed,” Whitson said. |
http://hrw.org/english/docs/2005/01/22/isrlpa10051.htm |
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| Dunya |
| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
I can never understand what you're trying to say.:p |
It was figurative :D |
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