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The ultimate Israel - Palestine Thread (it's all here) (pg. 58)
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| Cyrus King |
| quote: | Originally posted by ZiggyZus
Cyrus
You are truly pathetic, it's because of people like you that there's no peace. All I've read throughout this entire thread is nothing but hate coming from your mouth.
Along comes Escobar with well documented facts and debate and again you dismiss them as nonsense and garbage, why not challenge him instead of the immediate write off??....I ask you this, instead of preaching your hate toward Israel and the IDF why don’t YOU tell me and everyone else in this forum, how you would go about bringing peace to this conflict? How YOU would deal with this situation if you were in the position of Israel?
Everyone knows the Palestinians hardships and struggles... Everyone knows there is suffering on both sides...instead of preaching your hate and bigotry why not start some dialogue that will help bring people from both sides of the conflict closer together, because we both know there will never be true peace until this takes place.
Zig |
Ive already challenged these "facts" in the beginning of the thread along with my good friend palesttinian who seems to shut every zio up like never fuking before. Read the thread noob.
YOu cannot equate the suffering |
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| Escobar |
Well,
Once again I gave FACTS....non of which have been addressed by you or anyonelse in this thread. YOu can go all the way to the first one, you will not find answers...
Now, Cyrus, you claim that I am trying to re-write History.....But that facts I gave you are accurate and right. Nothing was made up.
YOu on the other hand....have not facts to base any of you claims and accusaions...you simply wrtie your bull and hope that those who are gullable will believe it.
Piss off, you little prick! GO LEARN SOME HISTORY! |
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| ZiggyZus |
Cyrus
I think the situation is way past the who has suffered more answer.
No one will deny the Palestinians, struggle and suffering, but I truly believe that Israel has the right to defend or protect it's people from terror....
Palestinians kill Israelis, and Israeli kill Palestinians, it's a never-ending cycle just like the hate in this forum.
There is always going to be difference in opinions and you're obviously very passionate about yours (which you're entitled too) but until all of us can sit down debate, challenge and discuss the situation in a normal civilized manner there will never be peace.
I just feel that all the negativity in this forum is counter productive to this or any situation, we have some very smart people on this thread, that can use their wisdom and smarts to find a common ground rather then trying to demoralize and/or humiliate each other.
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| ogvh5150 |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ-Kreing^^
This is obviously an idiot trying to act smart, check out some of his other posts here, they are all plain bull…he hasn’t got any clue on what he is saying, so just let him express himself.
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I see you've forgotten I have already shut you up before so here I go again:
| quote: | Originally posted by ogvh5150
What you don't see with your eyes, don't invent with your mouth. Jewish proverb
"For murder, whether of a Cuthean by a Cuthean, or of an Israelite by a Cuthean, punishment is incurred; but of a Cuthean by an Israelite, there is no death penalty" Babylonian Talmud Sanhedrin 57a
R. Hanina said: If a heathen smites a Jew, he is worthy of death, for it is written, And he looked this way and that way, and when he saw that there was no man, he slew the Egyptian. R. Hanina also said: He who smites an Israelite on the jaw, is as though he had thus assaulted the Divine Presence; for it is written, one who smiteth man [i.e. an Israelite] attacketh the Holy One. Babylonian Talmud Sanhedrin 57b
Sanhedrin 90a . Those who read the New Testament, Koran, etc. and other uncanonical books will have no portion in the world to come:
MISHNAH. ALL ISRAEL HAVE A PORTION IN THE WORLD TO COME, FOR IT IS WRITTEN, THY PEOPLE ARE ALL RIGHTEOUS; THEY SHALL INHERIT THE LAND FOR EVER, THE BRANCH OF MY PLANTING, THE WORK OF MY HANDS, THAT I MAY BE GLORIFIED.'
BUT THE FOLLOWING HAVE NO PORTION THEREIN: HE WHO MAINTAINS THAT RESURRECTION IS NOT A BIBLICAL DOCTRINE, THE TORAH WAS NOT DIVINELY REVEALED,
AND AN EPIKOROS. R. AKIBA ADDED: ONE WHO READS UNCANONICAL BOOKS. ALSO ONE WHO WHISPERS [A CHARM] OVER A WOUND AND SAYS, I WILL BRING NONE OF THESE DISEASES UPON THEE WHICH I BROUGHT UPON THE EGYPTIANS: FOR I AM THE LORD THAT HEALETH THEE.' ABBA SAUL SAYS: ALSO ONE WHO PRONOUNCES THE DIVINE NAME AS IT IS SPELT.
Contents of the Soncino Babylonian Talmud |
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| Flotser |
| quote: | Originally posted by ogvh5150
What you don't see with your eyes, don't invent with your mouth. Jewish proverb
"For murder, whether of a Cuthean by a Cuthean, or of an Israelite by a Cuthean, punishment is incurred; but of a Cuthean by an Israelite, there is no death penalty" Babylonian Talmud Sanhedrin 57a
R. Hanina said: If a heathen smites a Jew, he is worthy of death, for it is written, And he looked this way and that way, and when he saw that there was no man, he slew the Egyptian. R. Hanina also said: He who smites an Israelite on the jaw, is as though he had thus assaulted the Divine Presence; for it is written, one who smiteth man [i.e. an Israelite] attacketh the Holy One. Babylonian Talmud Sanhedrin 57b
Sanhedrin 90a . Those who read the New Testament, Koran, etc. and other uncanonical books will have no portion in the world to come:
MISHNAH. ALL ISRAEL HAVE A PORTION IN THE WORLD TO COME, FOR IT IS WRITTEN, THY PEOPLE ARE ALL RIGHTEOUS; THEY SHALL INHERIT THE LAND FOR EVER, THE BRANCH OF MY PLANTING, THE WORK OF MY HANDS, THAT I MAY BE GLORIFIED.'
BUT THE FOLLOWING HAVE NO PORTION THEREIN: HE WHO MAINTAINS THAT RESURRECTION IS NOT A BIBLICAL DOCTRINE, THE TORAH WAS NOT DIVINELY REVEALED,
AND AN EPIKOROS. R. AKIBA ADDED: ONE WHO READS UNCANONICAL BOOKS. ALSO ONE WHO WHISPERS [A CHARM] OVER A WOUND AND SAYS, I WILL BRING NONE OF THESE DISEASES UPON THEE WHICH I BROUGHT UPON THE EGYPTIANS: FOR I AM THE LORD THAT HEALETH THEE.' ABBA SAUL SAYS: ALSO ONE WHO PRONOUNCES THE DIVINE NAME AS IT IS SPELT.
Contents of the Soncino Babylonian Talmud |
ok thans for the answer
... but does that mean that Israel wants to kill all humans on earth if it had the option to do so?
no one learns those texts in schools. no one reads it in the synagogue. i dont even know if its true and in what context it was said.
and about the last paragraph. i guess its about the apocalypse or somethin'. it doesnt mean nothing to any israeli today. |
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| ogvh5150 |
There is more that can be found and how willing a person is to read it.
Genesis 17:4 As for me, behold, my covenant [is] with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations.
17:5 Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.
We are all children of Abraham. |
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| Cyrus King |
| quote: | Originally posted by Escobar
Well,
Once again I gave FACTS....non of which have been addressed by you or anyonelse in this thread. YOu can go all the way to the first one, you will not find answers...
Now, Cyrus, you claim that I am trying to re-write History.....But that facts I gave you are accurate and right. Nothing was made up.
YOu on the other hand....have not facts to base any of you claims and accusaions...you simply wrtie your bull and hope that those who are gullable will believe it.
Piss off, you little prick! GO LEARN SOME HISTORY! |
What was MADE UP was a country called Israel in 1948, over the province of PALESTINE.
In order for israel to be created, land was taken from palesitne.. alot of it.. about 75 through THEFT. Its clear and simple. YOu just cant stand the terroristic ways your zionist forefathers utilized to go about creating your precious only jewish homeland. |
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| DJ-Kreing^^ |
| quote: | Originally posted by ogvh5150
There is more that can be found and how willing a person is to read it.
Genesis 17:4 As for me, behold, my covenant [is] with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations.
17:5 Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.
We are all children of Abraham. |
OMG!! Ok, here we go again with this bull that hasn’t got anything to do with the subject.
You need to understand one simple thing, most of the people living in Israel myself included don’t give a about the bible or god or any of this crap.
Im jewish not by religion but by race, by nationality…do you understand that?
I don’t care about anything the torah says, to tell you the truth there was probably no such person as Abraham, this whole thing was just made up buy the Jewish priests (Cohanim) to get the Israeli people to follow their ways and rules.
The bible is a bunch of made up stories!!
The world will be a much better place when everyone finally realizes that. |
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| Flotser |
| quote: | Originally posted by ogvh5150
There is more that can be found and how willing a person is to read it.
Genesis 17:4 As for me, behold, my covenant [is] with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations.
17:5 Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.
We are all children of Abraham. |
so????
Genesis is a book shared by all 3 religions. and ask any muslim, abraham is considered the father of all arabs too. |
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| Dunya |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ-Kreing^^
OMG!! Ok, here we go again with this bull that hasn’t got anything to do with the subject.
You need to understand one simple thing, most of the people living in Israel myself included don’t give a about the bible or god or any of this crap.
Im jewish not by religion but by race, by nationality…do you understand that?
I don’t care about anything the torah says, to tell you the truth there was probably no such person as Abraham, this whole thing was just made up buy the Jewish priests (Cohanim) to get the Israeli people to follow their ways and rules.
The bible is a bunch of made up stories!!
The world will be a much better place when everyone finally realizes that. |
There are living a lot of respectfull animals in the MO.:rolleyes:
This shows the level of respect towards other religions.Now I understand why it's so normal to humiliate ppl. You don't have any respect for any human being. This proves why the palestinians are bahaving the way they do. |
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| shaolin_Z |
| I can never understand what you're trying to say.:p |
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| ogvh5150 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Flotser
so????
Genesis is a book shared by all 3 religions. and ask any muslim, abraham is considered the father of all arabs too. |
Maybe if I use the color= tag then maybe you will see it better:
Genesis 17:4 As for me, behold, my covenant [is] with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations.
17:5 Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ-Kreing^^
OMG!! Ok, here we go again with this bull that hasn’t got anything to do with the subject.
You need to understand one simple thing, most of the people living in Israel myself included don’t give a about the bible or god or any of this crap.
Im jewish not by religion but by race, by nationality…do you understand that?
I don’t care about anything the torah says, to tell you the truth there was probably no such person as Abraham, this whole thing was just made up buy the Jewish priests (Cohanim) to get the Israeli people to follow their ways and rules.
The bible is a bunch of made up stories!!
The world will be a much better place when everyone finally realizes that. |
Jews are not a religious group, but a separate nation, a special race, and the modern Jew who denies this is not only an apostate, a religious renegade, but a traitor to his people, his tribe, his race.
Moses Hess -Zionist
I am not an American citizen of the Jewish faith, I am a Jew…Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the Jewish people a race and we are a race.
Stephen S. Wise former president of the American Jewish Congress and the World Jewish Congress |
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